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Having other europeans countries fighting among themselves is always beneficial to Russia.

We're both posting in a thread about japanese anime. That makes both of us quite silly.

Nope, it was this:

Nvm the list, it's trash since it doesn't include Johan Liebert from Monster. The name of the song however?.... //edit: Found it!

Request: Second song in the video below (starting at 0:14), does anyone here know it? It sounds o familiar, perhaps from an anime or jRPG? Halp! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ-V5zt6nqI

Good news everyone!

Let them do it. At least we can have an experiment on how the law will affect society, good and bad. I do have my suspicions that it will produce som unsawery results.

Dude, the guy was not a politican, he was a man on a mission and with a message that is old as the idea of enlightment itself. Let's just go back a few years, shall we?

Good news everyone! https://archive.today/pmSbw

I just got the get this out of my chest. This very line of thinking is an amalgam of stupidity, ignorance and downright malice. There is no beauty, truth or desire to trancends one's position, because that would require strength of character, which requires rigorous thinking, which in turn requires failure and how to elevate yourself from it. What started as a nice "what if.."-idea has simply spiraled down to a "there has to be..."-dogma, disquised as a sheep in wolf's clothing as something "progressive" when it is all about control. I mean, lets do an experiment. Here we have a wonderful choir singing at a town square: Beautiful right? Nice example of sea-fearer culture right? Cool. Now lets put on our progressive-glasses: - The song is of scottish origin, then adopted by black slaves as negro spirtual and then back as traditional folk in New England. That's appropriation of other people's culture, which is problematic. - Why are there only white people singing this? Why can't it be people of color singing this? Lack of inclusion. That's problematic. - Why does it have to have a male lead? women can sing equally well. At least they should team up with a woman doing every second verse/chorus. This is problematic. - Why does it have to be a song of "white" sea shanty-culture? (nevermind how it has trancended through the ages). Why can't it be more minority culture? This is problematic. - Why does the lyrics (original lyrics here: http://www.jsward.com/shanty/roll_the_old_chariot.html) be about europeans? Why isn't there any mention of mexicans, africans or asians? This is problematic. - Why does the lyrics tell us about "going out with the gals"? That's transphobic. Why can't it be about everyone? That is problematic. So there you have it. A simple sea shanty sung by a choir has turned into a soul crushing case study on gender and culture and it has to change. This infentile line thought is insulting to any sane human being that posesses a soul. I feel better now.

Well, well, well. Isn't this voice familiar? Not directly linked to gamergate, but to the similar hugbox-culture at higher education.

If this continues, we might as well ban history and folklore all together. I mean, what kind of misogynist and phobist wrote a song like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9rAj-WtGng

The news love the outrage industry as it pays in good rating and dollars. I hope for a world where people collectively join hands, pointing and laughing at these kinds of people.

Josh, please tell those imbecilles that they should, in more diplomatic way, to eat **** and die. Alternatively, release a mod that removes any reference of any "-ism" and gender from the game all together. Call it the "sensitive-mod" or something.

This thread is like when you and bunch of your friends are watching the Champions League Final and someone has to ask, with a voice of Seinfield, "Hey guys, what the deal with Football?!" Do you know any turn based RPGs where you can insult a troll for failing to guard his broken bridge properly? No? Exactly.

Ralph Nader was along with Ron Paul the biggest proponent of letting the banks fail back in 2008, so credit where credits is due. Speaking of Paul, how can you not like a candidate with ads like these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXCZVmQ74OA

Removing pixalated jugs is progressive: http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/03/aesop-games-interview-being-denied-media-coverage-for-sociopolitical-stances/ Progressiveness is awesome! everybody join the hate-train: http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/03/dev-interview-denied-publication-because-it-wasnt-anti-gamergate/

Yes they are similar but all these statements would concern me if someone really used them as form of a political manifesto for any group. Thats why that Gramscian article distances itself from them So you would be concerned about the "Gamers are dead"-articles if, and only if, they all officially abided by an ethos or from a political manifesto? No not at all, I read any article that is relevant and then react to it based on what the message is, how its getting explained and finally does it resonate with me I will never understand how some of guys reacted to that Leigh Alexander article. It fascinates me that people like me took something positive from it yet many people were really offended which then lead to them getting annoyed I do think the reaction to the Leigh Alexander article and the creation of GG was really just a result of years of frustration from gamers by being treated a certain way and being lectured by SJW on what is acceptable in gaming The irony being yes SJ movements are real and influential but not much has changed or will change...so its like you guys reacted more to the suggestion of change than actual change So when we have demonstrated the similarities of destructive lines of thought to one philosophy, but you still think think that one positive and other is not without telling the difference? Oh wow. But those are two different things that you are making the same. I had no real issue with the Alexander article but I did find it a little insulting to white gamers because she generalized and didn't explain properly who she was referring to when she said " gamer " so understandably people who were already annoyed reacted a certain way But come on guys...a few generalizations shouldn't effect us and cause us to feel we need to respond in such a dramatic way? Anyway those other points are ideological statements that applied to Communism...not really the same thing as Leigh Alexanders view on transformation in the gaming industry ? See Baroth's post.

Expansion. What I mean is the modern (Western) left’s analyses and praxis is highly individualistic and highly submerged in the consumer mentality. Although they’ll certainly pay lip service to X oppressive structure their understanding of it comes from an ultra-liberal idealist perspective so they inevitably always focus on how this effects the individual and more importantly how the individual chooses to respond to this. This is where we get tumblr po-mo nonsense like “agency” and free choices which leads to ridiculous positions like support for institutions such as prostitution or pornography and support for acts like beating and strangling your girl-friend. There are of course those who are somewhat more radical and they’ll highlight that such choices are not free but due to being ignorant of or rejecting the existence of a societal “superstructure” they will then fall back on liberal tactics where they try to challenge them through consumer habits and consumer “shaming”. Another example would be the modern “gender” and “social justice” movements. Gender, rather than being a social construct, a hierarchy or what have you is now a way for the individual to express their own individual style and is an expression of your own agency. Rather than examining what creates and reinforces gender, what purpose it fills and who it harms and benefits the modern leftist instead focuses on “finding which gender fits best” which tends to mean buying a bunch of products and then throwing a label on it. Likewise with “social justice” the emphasis seems to be less concerned hammering out concrete tactics to challenge the existing power structure and more focused on “performance”. I.e. Wearing the right clothes, drinking the right coffees, buying from the right people and shaming those who don’t . Rather than being a movement for liberation and challenging the status-quo modern leftism has reduced itself to a commodity which one can buy to portray an image of uniqueness and individuality. Honestly this is pretty rambley, but what do you expect it’s nearly half past one in the morning here. Pretty what i said, just more eloquent.

Yes they are similar but all these statements would concern me if someone really used them as form of a political manifesto for any group. Thats why that Gramscian article distances itself from them So you would be concerned about the "Gamers are dead"-articles if, and only if, they all officially abided by an ethos or from a political manifesto? No not at all, I read any article that is relevant and then react to it based on what the message is, how its getting explained and finally does it resonate with me I will never understand how some of guys reacted to that Leigh Alexander article. It fascinates me that people like me took something positive from it yet many people were really offended which then lead to them getting annoyed I do think the reaction to the Leigh Alexander article and the creation of GG was really just a result of years of frustration from gamers by being treated a certain way and being lectured by SJW on what is acceptable in gaming The irony being yes SJ movements are real and influential but not much has changed or will change...so its like you guys reacted more to the suggestion of change than actual change So when we have demonstrated the similarities of destructive lines of thought to one philosophy, but you still think think that one positive and other is not without telling the difference? Oh wow.

Yes they are similar but all these statements would concern me if someone really used them as form of a political manifesto for any group. Thats why that Gramscian article distances itself from them So you would be concerned about the "Gamers are dead"-articles if, and only if, they all officially abided by an ethos or from a political manifesto?

Pray tell, do these phrases sound familiar? -There are no objective truths, just personal experiences -Feelings matter more than facts -Listen & Believe -Patriarchy (western culture, white men) is problematic. Especially in games How are these any different from what the Gramscian example before?

Sound familiar? I'm not sure what that is but its very irritating with its generalizations and flawed logic No one gives a damn if you find it irritating. Either you put up a counter argument on why old Soviet disinformation campaigns have absolutely no resemblance on to how the anti-GGs argue and what kind rhetoric they employ. Even Baroth can come up with counterarguments with great substance if poked enough, so you do have zero excuses. Either you put up or shut up. You seem to have misunderstood me , I didn't think you guys would be interested in what I don't like about those points. Thats why I didn't comment further, its not that I didn't want to And since you have asked me to respond I gladly will , I thoroughly enjoy these types of debates There is no truth, only competing agendas. 1)Nonsense, there are many truths that have been proven and are irrefutable. For example, Russia is actively involved in Ukraine and Nigeria is having an a hotly contested presidential election tomorrow All Western (and especially American) claims to moral superiority over Communism/Fascism/Islam are vitiated by the West’s history of racism and colonialism.2) Never..not in a million years. Of course the West has aspects of a checkered past but comparing the West to the purges of Stalin or Hitler is just silly and no serious historian will agree with that, its just hyperbole There are no objective standards by which we may judge one culture to be better than another. Anyone who claims that there are such standards is an evil oppressor. 3)Again wrong, we dont pass judgement on the wealth or education of the citizens in other countries. We generally pass judgement on how they treat there citizens and effectively govern there country. And there are still some appalling examples of leadership in the world and there is no way they aren't going to get criticized The prosperity of the West is built on ruthless exploitation of the Third World; therefore Westerners actually deserve to be impoverished and miserable.4 )This is obviously a joke ..and it did make me laugh Crime is the fault of society, not the individual criminal. Poor criminals are entitled to what they take. Submitting to criminal predation is more virtuous than resisting it.5)No if you break the law there must be consequences. The poor are victims. Criminals are victims. And only victims are virtuous. Therefore only the poor and criminals are virtuous. (Rich people can borrow some virtue by identifying with poor people and criminals.) For a virtuous person, violence and war are never justified. It is always better to be a victim than to fight, or even to defend oneself. But ‘oppressed’ people are allowed to use violence anyway; they are merely reflecting the evil of their oppressors. 6)Also funny When confronted with terror, the only moral course for a Westerner is to apologize for past sins, understand the terrorist’s point of view, and make concessions ....in fact is this whole thing suppose to be a joke ? That's more like it. You do realize what i was trying point out the similarities of the underlying philosophy of the people of anti-GG vs. Soviet KGB subversion methods and not you personally?

So dump everything into MGT and INT is the way to go? I was under the impression that you need to boost either DEX or CON (deflection, endurance).