Humodour Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Because you're downloading someone else's copyrighted work- ie the executable/ dlls- you are infringing their copyright even though the use of cracks/ circumventing DRM is not itself illegal. If you own the game (as I said - legitimate uses), then you already have copyright permission to own that game's files, so there is no copyright violation. It's a tenuous argument you have and I think it's noteworthy that the courts in Australia and America (I haven't paid attention to NZ) differentiate between DRM circumvention and copyright infringement. And, as I said, DRM circumvention for legit reasons is clearly legal in New Zealand. Since you seem to disagree, it's now time to cite sources: http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/04...on-fair-use.ars And just in case you think that's just an rumour or misinterpretation of the law, feel free to read the exact legislation the article refers to: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/...ologies_noresel If only Australian copyright law were as progressive (although I am thankful it isn't as bad as America's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I've read the article and the act, the act itself seems to say that you have to be a 'qualified person' (Librarian, etc) to actually engage in the act of DRM circumvention, though they can do ti for others? Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 (edited) Because you're downloading someone else's copyrighted work- ie the executable/ dlls- you are infringing their copyright even though the use of cracks/ circumventing DRM is not itself illegal. If you own the game (as I said - legitimate uses), then you already have copyright permission to own that game's files, so there is no copyright violation. But you're still wrong*, unless you think the entire population of NZ consists of librarians and other "authorised" people- rather ironically I may well qualify as authorised and my dad very likely does, but the vast majority of people certainly won't. But as I said earlier, you're pretty much certain not to be prosecuted either civilly or criminally for it as it is close to impossible to prove and nobody would waste their time trying unless it's a mass distribution type thing. Or someone has highly paid lawyers sitting around wanting to justify their stipends. Just be glad we aren't having this debate under the old laws where copying music from a CD to your computer or iPod was illegal... *I admit my wording could have been far clearer on the why though. Edited March 9, 2010 by Zoraptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almehdaaol Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Because you're downloading someone else's copyrighted work- ie the executable/ dlls- you are infringing their copyright even though the use of cracks/ circumventing DRM is not itself illegal. If you own the game (as I said - legitimate uses), then you already have copyright permission to own that game's files, so there is no copyright violation. But you're still wrong*, unless you think the entire population of NZ consists of librarians and other "authorised" people- rather ironically I may well qualify as authorised and my dad very likely does, but the vast majority of people certainly won't. But as I said earlier, you're pretty much certain not to be prosecuted either civilly or criminally for it as it is close to impossible to prove and nobody would waste their time trying unless it's a mass distribution type thing. Or someone has highly paid lawyers sitting around wanting to justify their stipends. Just be glad we aren't having this debate under the old laws where copying music from a CD to your computer or iPod was illegal... *I admit my wording could have been far clearer on the why though. Wow -- all the fuss have been all around DRM these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 If you own the game (as I said - legitimate uses), then you already have copyright permission to own that game's files, so there is no copyright violation. Wouldn't the difference be the way its done? Legally, nobody is allowed to distribute the original files, in part or full. Receiving such a file would make you an accessory to an illegal activity. But that doesn't cover other ways of doing it that doesn't involve distribution of original files. No, I am not going to provide a list of options “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Wow -- all the fuss have been all around DRM these days! As DRM's become more and more obnoxious and intrusive, they loom ever larger in peoples consciousness. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 snip I lol'd "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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