ramza Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 What's wrong with the BG2 avatars and animations? Don't they look almost the same (if not improved?) compared to the BG1/IWD1 ones? "Ooo, squirrels, Boo! I know I saw them! Quick, throw nuts!" -Minsc "I am a well-known racist in the Realms! Elves? Dwarves? Ha! Kill'em all! Humans rule! -Me Volourn will never grow up, he's like the Black Peter Pan, here to tell you that it might be great to always be a child, but everybody around is gonna hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 It's funny when people try to modify a horribly outdated game with miniscule "better" animations that still look outright ugly. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkan Posted June 21, 2009 Author Share Posted June 21, 2009 What's wrong with the BG2 avatars and animations? Don't they look almost the same (if not improved?) compared to the BG1/IWD1 ones? There is only one side the the BG2 avatars. The armor, helmets, and shields look silly. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkan Posted June 21, 2009 Author Share Posted June 21, 2009 It's funny when people try to modify a horribly outdated game with miniscule "better" animations that still look outright ugly. Whatever. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 It's funny when people try to modify a horribly outdated game with miniscule "better" animations that still look outright ugly. Maybe it's like self delusion: if you are always trying to improve something, even if it doesn't really improve, you don't notice how horribly outdated and crappy it looks. Sometimes you just have to let is go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkan Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 It's funny when people try to modify a horribly outdated game with miniscule "better" animations that still look outright ugly. Maybe it's like self delusion: if you are always trying to improve something, even if it doesn't really improve, you don't notice how horribly outdated and crappy it looks. Sometimes you just have to let is go. Right. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 The reason I still play a lot of ugly games is that no developer has given me games that are that much fun with better graphics. I like awezome graphics as much as the next person, but ultimately its the gameplay that makes a game a keeper. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 The reason I still play a lot of ugly games is that no developer has given me games that are that much fun with better graphics. I like awezome graphics as much as the next person, but ultimately its the gameplay that makes a game a keeper. My point was that trying to make them look better doesn't really work, especially with faux-3d sprites(you would have to redraw all the animations). Old games are awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 The reason I still play a lot of ugly games is that no developer has given me games that are that much fun with better graphics. I like awezome graphics as much as the next person, but ultimately its the gameplay that makes a game a keeper. My point was that trying to make them look better doesn't really work, especially with faux-3d sprites(you would have to redraw all the animations). Old games are awesome! I see what you are saying, but I do think old games can be improved graphically and enjoyed more. FOr example the 1.13 mod that lets you play Jag 2 in 1024*768 instead of 640*480. It defintely makes the game look better. DOesn't mean I would stop playing it if I had to go back to 640*480, but it is a graphical improvement that I relish. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 The reason I still play a lot of ugly games is that no developer has given me games that are that much fun with better graphics. I like awezome graphics as much as the next person, but ultimately its the gameplay that makes a game a keeper. My point was that trying to make them look better doesn't really work, especially with faux-3d sprites(you would have to redraw all the animations). Old games are awesome! I see what you are saying, but I do think old games can be improved graphically and enjoyed more. FOr example the 1.13 mod that lets you play Jag 2 in 1024*768 instead of 640*480. It defintely makes the game look better. DOesn't mean I would stop playing it if I had to go back to 640*480, but it is a graphical improvement that I relish. Adding new resolutions is always nice. All PC games should be scalable(damn 800x600 Diablo II) by default... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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