Jagged Alliance 3 News

[Slowtrain]

Removing the entire sector-based aspect of Jag 2 is like Bethesda announcing that Fallout 3 is going to be released with no dialogue of any sort.  Such a fundamental aspect of the game is being removed that it begs the question, why bother?

 

The answer of course, is because it's a lot easier and cheaper to do a bunch of pre-set missions + random encounters than create the dynamic campaign aspects that made Jag 2 so cool.

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Was it really the dynamic campaign that made the game so cool?

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It wasn't the only thing, but it was a big part of what made the game so much more interesting than other squad tactics games.

 

Canned missions just aren't very interesting, especially if they are of the pass/fail/replay-until-success-or-death variety. Randomly generated missions a la XCOM are fine, even though you don't get to originate the mission yourself. XCOm missions you could take or pass, succeed, succeed partly, or miserably fail. And yet the game continued. Many times in the early mid game I would lose my Skyranger and its entire complement of soldiers, yet manage to recover and continue the game for a good long while. Much more fun. And more interesting.

 

And in Jag 2 the whole aspect of finance your campaign, take the ground, hold the ground added a great strategic level to the affair.

 

If Jag 3 was going to get new features to offset the loss of prior features, there woudl be room for hope. But that list appears to indicate that features are only being lost not added.

 

rather dismal, really.

[Slowtrain]

The only ones I remember beeing able to overrun a well trained milita were the Crepax (Sp?) critters that would ocme out of the mines at night. And that only until I kill the bug queen. Otherwise, a militia with both veteran and elite troops in it will be able to hold off pretty much anything the queen throws at them. Goes for SAM sites as well.

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Depends what level you play on. In the expert campaign, you can very defintely lose the central SAM, sectors in Grumm and sectors in Alma to the queens counter attacks. Sometimes, you could lose a few sectors in Cambria early. The northernmost towns were rarely seriosuly threatened.

 

In the 1.13 mod, shortly after you take Drassen, you are counterattacked in the Drassen mine sector by 60 Elites attacking simulatneously from all three adjacent sectors. You pretty much always lose that one.

 

The 1.13 mod is truly awesome.

[Gorth]

I seem to remember having downloaded a mod by that (or a similar) name not that long ago. Perhaps I should give it a try

 

Edit: It sounds a bit like playing Icewind Dale in Heart of Fury mode.

Edited December 31, 2006 by Gorth

[Diamond]

JA2 experts, tell me

 

are there any possible issues with patching Steam version of JA2? I mean should I go for it or I would be better off getting a CD somewhere?

[Slowtrain]

JA2 experts, tell me

 

are there any possible issues with patching Steam version of JA2? I mean should I go for it or I would be better off getting a CD somewhere?

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I believe that the STEAM version is the standard Jag 2 Gold revision. The 1.12 patch for the gold version should work fine of that's the case. The 1.07 patch which was the final version patch for the original Jag 2 is still around if you need it.

 

edit: It may be a prepatched version though. So just check the revision before you patch it. The final standard revision of Jag 2 gold is 1.12. If that's what it already is, you shouldn't need to patch it.

 

 

 

I seem to remember having downloaded a mod by that (or a similar) name not that long ago. Perhaps I should give it a try

 

Edit: It sounds a bit like playing Icewind Dale in Heart of Fury mode.

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Here is the link in case you want it: http://ja2v113.schtuff.com/

 

 

A new full update is due out in January some time.

 

This is the greatest mod I've ever played for any game. Most of the new options and old systems are now user configurable configurable through the new ini file locateed in the 1.13 directory after install. I suggest you look through them, Although you can just take the defaukts and go if you want.

Edited December 31, 2006 by CrashGirl