List a feature that is now standard

[mkreku]

I still think Wasteland was what made "learn-by-doing" popular. Wayyy before Morrowind or even Daggerfall or Arena.

[alanschu]

DX had a better one and made it standard for the genre. More than HL

 

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Why?

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The numerous '...' was trying to display my speechlessness of such a claim. I agree that Half-Life was the one that kick started things.

[Musopticon?]

Ah, okay. Thought you had lost your mind. HL brought story, triggered stuff and intelligent enemies to FPS's. Although you could argue that Sin did that first. Poorly, but still.

[alanschu]

Well, we're talking about the ones that made it big right. I'd have to give the nod to Half-Life.

 

Half-Life showed me that an FPS game can be fun single player.

[Musopticon?]

Thief did the same for me. Ah, too bad it never got hugely popular. I would have liked to see stealth games, with huge production values and great allroundedness. Nowadays I can either choose a stupid plot(Splinter Cell), a game movie(MGS) or a bugathlon(Thief:DS). Arghhh

[Cantousent]

Did anyone mention patching? What game showed that publishers could wait to fix problems as long as they came out with a patch later? That's a worthy feature.

 

Also, expansion packs. Which game feature an expansion pack rather than a sequel.

[Craigboy2]

Thief did the same for me. Ah, too bad it never got hugely popular. I would have liked to see stealth games, with huge production values and great allroundedness. Nowadays I can either choose a stupid plot(Splinter Cell), a game movie(MGS) or a bugathlon(Thief:DS). Arghhh

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Well Thief had two sequels.

[Musopticon?]

Thief did the same for me. Ah, too bad it never got hugely popular. I would have liked to see stealth games, with huge production values and great allroundedness. Nowadays I can either choose a stupid plot(Splinter Cell), a game movie(MGS) or a bugathlon(Thief:DS). Arghhh

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Well Thief had two sequels.

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And I used to participate in both respective modding scenes.

[StillLife]

Just to chime in: As far as ragdoll physics, I'd give the nod to Hitman: Agent 47(suck) or Silent Assassin(excellent). It was at least the first game that I thought ragdoll physics added something substantial to the experience. Blasting a dude at close range with a shotgun and having him respond to the impact by flying back into a wall was pretty cool for the time, as was being able to shove incapacitated victims into tight spaces.

[Musopticon?]

I remember making mafia thugs do backflips with the silverballers. :D

[Dark_Raven]

FO2 = FO1.

 

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[Haitoku]

FO2 = FO1.

 

Game over.

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Just depends on what story you find more interesting.

 

Find the Water Chip or find the Creation kit...

[Darque]

FO2 > FO1.

 

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Yup

[Judge Hades]

I disagree. There was too much lame arse easter eggs and toilet humor in Fallout 2 for me to consider it better than Fallout 1. It is still a great game mind you, with only two games better, but Fallout 2 is not better than Fallout 1. Also the boxing minigame was kind of stupid. I hate mini games.

Edited May 21, 2006 by Judge Hades

[Dark_Raven]

I disagree.  There was too much lame arse easter eggs and toilet humor in Fallout 2 for me to consider it better than Fallout 1.  It is still a great game mind you, with only two games better, but Fallout 2 is not better than Fallout 1.

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That is the best part of the game, easter eggs and humor.

[Darque]

I disagree.  There was too much lame arse easter eggs and toilet humor in Fallout 2 for me to consider it better than Fallout 1.  It is still a great game mind you, with only two games better, but Fallout 2 is not better than Fallout 1.  Also the boxing minigame was kind of stupid.  I hate mini games.

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Fallout was boring

 

Of course it probably didn't help that I played Fallout 2 first.

[Judge Hades]

That is the best part of the game, easter eggs and humor.

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No, it was the worse part of the game.

[Dark_Raven]

That is the best part of the game, easter eggs and humor.

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No, it was the worse part of the game.

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The best part for you was probably the stupid rules the game had. Exciting!

[Volourn]

Hades is wrong. FO2 > FO1 because it was cooler.

 

Being raped by mutant > having love sick puppy try to have sex with you 24 hours a day

[Judge Hades]

The best part for you was probably the stupid rules the game had. Exciting! 

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Yeah, so.

 

There was also the screaming and dancing alphas.

Also I liked the Master as the main villain better than the President of the United Stated.

Edited May 21, 2006 by Judge Hades

[Dark_Raven]

Being raped by mutant  > having love sick puppy try to have sex with you 24 hours a day

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What ever floats your boat.

[Darque]

Also I liked the Master as the main villain better than the President of the United Stated.

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the president of the united states makes the perfect villian. "

[Judge Hades]

Oh come one now. He was a George Bush Sr. knock off with his own bumbling Dan Quayle wannabe. There was just too much easter eggs, pop culture references, and torilet humor to make the game better than Fallout 1.

[Volourn]

The President was better. I'm sorry, but the whole,"I want to turn everyone a pile of goo becaue I'ma pile of goo" isn't exactly the best reason to ebcome a 'villain', imo.

 

The President's distaste for those different or those 'not human' is a lot mor elogical. And, at least he didn't try to 'turn them back into humans, lol' with a fancy goo syrup.

 

R00fles!

 

P.S. The Master was good; but surely is overrated.

Edited May 21, 2006 by Volourn

[Darque]

Deranged dictators > pile of ABC gum