Satisfying dual wielding?

[omgFIREBALLS]

In unmodded Skyrim, dual wielding is meh. You have one weapon in your main hand, and another in your off hand, but the whole isn't greater than the sum of the parts. If your main hand weapon does more damage, you should just keep left clicking. They are just two separate tools. And this is great for say, a wand and a grimoire. That's a "you use one or the other" kind of weapon combo.

But for say, a pair of swords, I'm looking for that flurry feeling of one arm swinging while the other recovers, where dual wielding results in attacking more rapidly. Have we seen that in Avowed?

Edited November 22, 2024 by omgFIREBALLS

[Psychotic Chemist]

You're actually very much mistaken about Skyrim. In Skyrim, dual wielding melee weapons allows you to do the extremely powerful dual wield power attack by holding down both the left and right mouse buttons at the same time. You can also do the dual wield normal attack by just clicking the left and right mouse buttons at the same time. But you will do extremely high damage with the dual wield power attacks. The whole is absolutely greater than the sum of the parts.

[Lonlon]

The only dual wield setup I use in my PotD run is dual pistols. It's really strong cuz you can either double charge pistol attacks or shoot one while reloading the other (while also maintaining slowmo effect from steady aim).

On top of that you have access to 2 strong unique pistols quite early in the game.

Also, pistols beeing one-handed, they enable strong versatility : you can use a shield, a grimoire or a melee weapon along with a pistol.

Needless to say that ranged weapons enable headshots which make crit chance completely unecessary. Pistols benefit from that too.

Finally, a pistol talent setup allows you to also use bows and therefore to have a more sneaky approach in combat if you need to.

All these reasons make me believe pistol is the strongest weapon type in the game right now.

Regarding dual wielding melee weapons I wont be able to tell cuz I haven't tested it extensively enough, but i'm pretty sure you cannot double charge attack (which in lame in my opinion).

 

Edited yesterday at 12:17 PM by Lonlon

[SenSx]

I don't have the game yet, but I wonder if that is possible to build some kind of rogue character ?

Is the sneak attack implemented in the game ? If not do you think it will be possible in the future via patchs or mods ?

Maybe not exactly like how it works in PoE, maybe there are not enough debuffs type for that in Avowed, but maybe more damage on poisoned ennemies or ennemies next to a companion ?

Also are bows viable compare to guns ?

[omgFIREBALLS]

1 hour ago, SenSx said:

I don't have the game yet, but I wonder if that is possible to build some kind of rogue character ?

Common internet misconception: I will annoy people if I make a thread for my question, so instead I will derail an existing thread with it, because that is more subtle and appropriate.

On topic, since this thread was bumped, I can say the answer to my question is no, misconceptions about Skyrim notwithstanding. You have to alternate your attacks for proper DW and you cannot block while dual wielding.

[Lonlon]

Lol, I didn't even realise your post was 2 month old 

Beeing unable to use the parry skill as soon as you have anything in your off hand locked me out of all my fun roguish/spellblade builds ideas 

[SenSx]

47 minutes ago, omgFIREBALLS said:

Common internet misconception: I will annoy people if I make a thread for my question, so instead I will derail an existing thread with it, because that is more subtle and appropriate.

On topic, since this thread was bumped, I can say the answer to my question is no, misconceptions about Skyrim notwithstanding. You have to alternate your attacks for proper DW and you cannot block while dual wielding.

 

Well actually I did hesitate to make another thread for that reason.

But I did continue on this topic because I felt it also concerned dual wield.

 

Lonlon => Impossible to parry at all in Avowed if you dual wield ? (By parrying you mean just blocking at the right timing ? Thats a shame if that's it, or dual wield better have good advantages to compensate).

[Lonlon]

28 minutes ago, SenSx said:

Lonlon => Impossible to parry at all in Avowed if you dual wield ? (By parrying you mean just blocking at the right timing ? Thats a shame if that's it, or dual wield better have good advantages to compensate).

AFAIK it's impossible. And yes it's a shame. DW allows you to attack twice as fast if you can spam both mouse buttons correctly 

Also double charged attacks only work with guns. Which is a shame too.

[SenSx]

Yea it might remove a good part of the gameplay...Unless you get huge defensive advantages as well, like better dodge.

Spamming attacks is ok, but if you cannot avoid anything in return...

I don't see myself using a shield or a 2H weapon in that kind of games, not my style.