Decisions from PoE 1 to PoE 2.

[Jerico Hellsangel]

I recently decided that i wanted to finally continue with PoE2 again. But my save is very far into the playthrough and it has been like a year or so so i am completely out of the loop so i wanted to start over.

I´ve played PoE1 and i had a save file which i extracted my decisions from for my longest standing save.

Now however this save file is completely gone and i don´t know most of my decisions.

Can i extract the decisions i did from the current save file somehow from the files? Like a text document that says "these are the previous decisions" so i can just copy them and put them into my new playthrough or do i either have to guess what i would´ve done again or play through the entirety of PoE1 again?

[Chaospread]

I don't know if you can extract decision from savefile game as text or any kind of it, but, without doing another run, you can read in PG "diary' how you resolve completed missions, I guess.

[Jerico Hellsangel]

4 hours ago, Chaospread said:

I don't know if you can extract decision from savefile game as text or any kind of it, but, without doing another run, you can read in PG "diary' how you resolve completed missions, I guess.

What do you mean by pg?

I also can only find the quest completions of PoE 2 and nowhere my decisions from PoE 1 that i chose to import into PoE 2.

Thats the crux of my issue. My PoE 1 savefile is gone and the only character i have that had those decisions is already lvl 17. I want to start from the beginning but have no clue what choices i made in PoE 1.

If i can find out within that character what choices i did in PoE 1 to write them down somewhere and create a custom PoE 1 history with that i can pick up from that save file. I just don´t know how to look up what decisions i did in PoE 1 is in that PoE 2 save file.

[Chaospread]

By PG i mean "main character".

Ok, i think Io see now, you have no savegame of PoE1 and only a savegame in PoE2 (with main char at 17) with decision imported from Poe1, is it right?

If you have already dig inside main char diary, complete mission, options (maybe in some difficulty options etc. there are somenthing... I doubt about that but you can check if you want), the only other thing you can do is searching in current game data. Unfortunately now I have no clue about where and what to look for, you should find some .xml files, try to search for some string of PoE1 choice; here
https://pillarsofeternity.fandom.com/wiki/Histories you can find some of those, i.e. "Hollowborn", "pledge", "animancy" and so on. Maybe try withj case insensitive search.

The trouble could be programmers didn't use meaningful strings, or (worst) they saved them in some internal program memory and you have no chances to retrieve them, but you can make an attempt.

[Boeroer]

PG = Player Garacter  

[Chaospread]

I'm sorry, it's an italian slip
PG = Personaggio Giocante (Player Character)

[Jerico Hellsangel]

21 minutes ago, Chaospread said:

I'm sorry, it's an italian slip
PG = Personaggio Giocante (Player Character)

Thats fine XD no issues with other languages, was just confused.

I found my save file but i cannot read it. I tried opening it with txt editor and search for the relevant strings on the wiki you sent me but it´s just gibberish and i neither have the necessary program to decipher it (ironically enough since my player character is a cipher) nor would even know which program it could be to download it.

[Chaospread]

Savegame file is actually a zip file. You can unzip but you'll find a list of files which are no-text file and whoever knows what reader you need to read it.

The question is: are we sure PoE1 choices are in these files?

I've found an interesting suggestion here: Journal -> Journal tab (on the top of the menu, on PC at least) -> Biography

He says that it doesn't cover everything, but you can give a try and let us know
If I have time I wanna first understand where these information are and second, how to extract them...but I doubt I'll find time for that... but at least the first point, maybe...

[Chaospread]

Savegame file is actually zip file. You can unzip but you'll find a list of files which are no-text file and whoever knows what reader you need to read it.

The question is: are we sure PoE1 choices are in these files?

I've found an interesting suggestion here: Journal -> Journal tab (on the top of the menu, on PC at least) -> Biography

He says that it doesn't cover everything, but you can give a try and let us know
If I have time I wanna first understand where these information are and second, how to extract them...but I doubt I'll find time for that... but at least the first point, maybe...
Edit: perhaps they can be found with console with command "DisplayLegacyHistoryWindow()" or something like that (see this and this) but this needs more exploration...

Edited Tuesday at 04:39 PM by Chaospread
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[Kvellen]

You could export the variables from your Deadfire save using the console command "ExportGlobals". This creates a .txt file with the current state of every variable in a loaded Deadfire save. Including those of the PoE1 save you imported. Then just use the Creating a custom legacy history page on the wiki to make a list of the choices to take in the legacy creator that correspond to the variable status.

[Jerico Hellsangel]

1 hour ago, Kvellen said:

You could export the variables from your Deadfire save using the console command "ExportGlobals". This creates a .txt file with the current state of every variable in a loaded Deadfire save. Including those of the PoE1 save you imported. Then just use the Creating a custom legacy history page on the wiki to make a list of the choices to take in the legacy creator that correspond to the variable status.

That is absolutely godly, i did that and found that txt file.

HOWEVER i am so confused at some things. 

LIke aloth supports autonomy so that would be Aloth_ending: 3 but when i look into it it says Aloth_ending: 0 which royaly confuses me since 0 is not a thing in the list on the wiki. Same with Eder who i made more skeptical so that should be a faith: -1 but eder for me has -5 in the files for some reason but ingame it says he still Loves Eothas and likes the followers and dislikes anti Eothasians. So what is what now i am confused. If is is still pro Eothas, should he have faith: 1 instead? And not -5?

[Kvellen]

22 hours ago, Jerico Hellsangel said:

LIke aloth supports autonomy so that would be Aloth_ending: 3 but when i look into it it says Aloth_ending: 0 which royaly confuses me since 0 is not a thing in the list on the wiki.

Hmm I took a quick search of the gamedata in PoE1. There is a conversation where that variable is gets set that plays in the final dungeon. If you don't have him in the party at that point the variable is never set above 0. In such a case I'd assume when importing a save to Deadfire it will compares 2 other variables "n_Aloth_authority" vs "n_Aloth_autonomy". Which are incremented during several key conversations with him in PoE1. Whichever one is higher represents his decision at the end of PoE1.

• n_Aloth_authority is the higher number = "He became grandmaster of the Leaden Key-"
• n_Aloth_autonomy is the higher number =  "He became dedicated to dismantling the Leaden Key-" 

The custom legacy creation choice doesn't need to set these variables.

22 hours ago, Jerico Hellsangel said:

Same with Eder who i made more skeptical so that should be a faith: -1 but eder for me has -5 in the files for some reason but ingame it says he still Loves Eothas and likes the followers and dislikes anti Eothasians. So what is what now i am confused. If is is still pro Eothas, should he have faith: 1 instead? And not -5?

Likewise here I'd just assume that any negative number means Edér became sceptical at the end of PoE1. Though regardless of his opinion on Eothas, he doesn't agree with the persecution of worshipers of Eothas.

Edited 10 hours ago by Kvellen

[Chaospread]

About Aloth and Eder "numbers" and decisions in PoE1, you can find the "algorithms" here and here, with other info here and here.