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Hi. What am I doing wrong? Or is it a bug? Even with phantom engaging Yseyr I am still getting penalties -1PEN -5ACC

 

ps Was it Charm of Bones +10ACC against vessels before??

Edited January 10, 20197 yr by Waski

the phantom don't engage. In the picture you don't have the green arrows. Don't know if it's a bug or a phamtom limit (or perhaps you need to reposition it)

He engage, I double checked it. You just don't see it because I hover without cursor over combat log. Besides class description says "enemy threatened by ally" not "enemy engaged".

This might be worth posting in the technical support subforum.  It might have to do with Essential Phantom and Substantial Phantom creating summons that are flagged as "Join Team" rather than "Join Party," but I don't know the exact parameters that are flagged for the Tactician subclass bonuses and penalties.  

Flanking like that (targets with big circle) doesn't get rid of the penalty, sadly.

In most fights I just flank with chillfog and if I reallly need to get rid of the penalty either summon level 4 phantom or tentacles right next to me.

The good thing is in a long fight once you got rid of the penalty it will stay gone for the rest of the fight, so if you summon right next to you, wait a little and then summon the proper flanking phantom you will not get the penalty again.

 

So in short, penalty only goes away if you have been very close to your ally at least for a few seconds while the ally engaged an enemy.

Thanks Raven, I will try it.