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So I'm wondering if weapons, be they summoned or not benefit from abilties like Scion of Flame. Is it pointless to get this ability or does it add a penetration point for that damage type?

Firebrand should benefit from it. I haven’t tested recently but it was brought up during the beta and Josh acknowledged it in a QA Stream.

"Time is not your enemy. Forever is."

— Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment

"It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers."

— Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears

My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus

 

Weapons that work with elemental talents and that I tested:

 

- Firebrand (Scion of Flame)

- Frostseeker (Secrets of Rime - only the AoE blast)

- Rot Skulls (Spirit of Decay - only the AoE blast)

- Kalakoth's Minor Blights (all - weapon cycles through all 4 elemental damage types - each of them profits from the corresponding talent)

- Fury's natural weapons (Heart of the Storm - initial hit + jump)

 

Weapon that I suspected to work but don't:

 

- Caedebald's Blackbow (although it does corrode damage)

- Nannasin's Cobra Strike

- Concelhaut's Draining Touch

 

Firebrand also profits from the Ring of Focused Flame (+10 ACC) which seems to stack with everything and might be a reason to use it. +10 ACC is not bad. For example you could use Rending Smash all the time without ACC loss (compared to a mundane great sword). The bonus doesn't get applied twice when doing FoD with Firebrand. Also PEN from Scion of Flame only gets applied once. ;)

 

The burn version of Kalakoth's Minor Blights also works with it by the way.

Edited by Boeroer

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Thanks. I'm RPing a Magran's chosen Fire Godlike with Firebrand. I use a permanent version because I don't want to play Druid or use scrolls.

Weapon that I suspected to work but don't:

 

- Caedebald's Blackbow (although it does corrode damage)

- Nannasin's Cobra Strike

- Concelhaut's Draining Touch

 

I reported Caedebald's Blackbow and Concelhaut's Draining Touch.

 

Nannasin's Cobra Strike doesn't work with the talent because the attack actually deals piercing damage, and the raw DoT from poison is more akin to a lash such as Wildstrike:

 

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"Time is not your enemy. Forever is."

— Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment

"It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers."

— Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears

My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus

 

Thank you for the bug report. Yes - I agree on Cobra Strike. It's not really an elemental attack. I just tested it because I thought "Poison? Maybe...?".

 

I also think that Magran's Favor should do slash/burn and also profit from Scion of Flame. Just because the weapon seems to be so full of fire - it has a fiery core and whatnot, right? ;)

Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods

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