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"Boo says, 'Whaaaaaaaaat?'" Much more obscure, another would be "That signpost up ahead? You have now entered the File Sorting Zone" And from The Curse of Monkey Island there are so goddamn many. "Funny, I didn't think you could die in a LucasArts Adventure Game." "Could you pick me up so I can bite you?" "It smells like something's burning up here...Hmm, must be this shoddy seventeenth-century electrical wiring." Ah...good times.

No. July 1st at 1200 UTC. This is 1200 GMT, or 1300 British Summer Time, as the UK is currently on Daylight Savings Time, so the UK is one hour ahead of GMT.

Fair enough. That may just be your impression, or Michael Collins might just not have an emotional connection to his trip. So if you were the leader of the Soviet Union, wouldn't you consider that a lot more than suspicious? Evidently, the Soviets weren't bothered enough by the possibility that the moon landings were faked to voice them, which is especially curious because any evidence that the US had faked their landings would be quite possibly the biggest propaganda coup in the history of mankind. Apparently, the Apollo astronauts passed through the van allen belt fast enough that the amount of radiation they absorbed was miniscule compared to the levels needed to have noticeable effects. As I understand it, passing through the belts at the speed they did would amount to an exposure of 1 rem. Unless I'm mistaken, you don't notice any effects without 25 of them. Well, maybe the van allen belts killed them. But seriously, if true I'd call it a coincidence, but is it? Just how many people are we talking about, and what did they die of? Which would strike me as something which would not happen if they were being faked. If you'd expect the module to stay in constant contact with mission control were it not being faked, why wouldn't the hoaxers make sure the module stayed in constant contact? Professional Military fakers with million dollar budgets wouldn't leave all these "errors" on one of the most historical fakes/events in human history. Besides, wouldn't this be result of passing behind the moon? What about the soviet satellite operators, as well as any soviets who might have happened to be in space, as well as any American satellite operators who were not briefied on the project, and the people in mission control, especially the ones monitoring the thing's position, all of whom would be aware if the module was not progressing to the moon, and the camera crews at the faking site, the astronauts, the ones setting up the site, the sound crew, the lighting crew, the people who made the props, etc. etc.. All of them would have known the landings were being faked. Agreed, no one would deliberately inflict an entire week of only Princess Diana programs on my country unless they were more evil than Hitler. Since I do not believe said person could exist, it must have been an accident. :D

Actually, we did go back, several times. After Apollo 11, we went back in Apollos 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17. As to why we didn't go back after that, well, going to the moon is just a tad expensive. That may have had something to do with it. Also, in case you have forgotten, we are going back to the moon, and considering even setting up a permanent presence there, as a springboard for going to Mars. The moon landings happened. Think about it, it's really the only thing that makes sense. How many hundreds, if not thousands of people would it take to fake a moon landing? Why hasn't one come forward? The Soviets would have been monitoring the Apollo spacecraft just as much as the Americans would have been. If there hadn't been a moon landing, the soviets would have known. Further, the US military is good at keeping secrets, but the Soviets were as good, if not better, at finding them out. The chances that not even one of those hundreds or thousands of people was a communist spy seem miniscule to me. If there had been a fake staging of the moon landing, the soviets would have known. The second the Soviets realised this by either of those methods, you'd have heard gloating statements like "Ha ha! Styupid Amyericans and their Capitalist running dogs cyannot even land probe on moon! By fyaking their landing, they hyave proven that they are consigned to the ash heap of hyistory! We will bury them!" from here to the moon. There are good explanations for just about every supposed inconsistency in the moon landing pictures, and even if there weren't, why is it that everyone can see them except the huge number of the best photographic experts who would have worked on the project? If the moon landings were faked, the supposed proof of it would lead me to believe that they were faked by some newly recruited cadet in his back garden, not a team of the best military experts of the time.

28 hours left, and some of you still haven't submitted moves. Come on, people! You're cutting it rather close.

And, as I said, some of the allegations AMD is making do, I believe, warrant government investigation and intervention. I told you so. I'll cut and paste it from now on.

I agree.

Personally, I had little trouble buying my AMD processor from a shop. Where there is a will, there is a way. In any case, as I've already said (and I somehow have the feeling I'll be saying it a hell of a farking lot in this thread, and will be ignored every time), some of the allegations AMD is making do, I believe, warrant government investigation and intervention. But such cases are rare, in my opinion.

Personally, I see nothing wring with fantasising about 15 year olds. That's perfectly natural. After all, they are post-pubescent and capable of bearing children, so it doesn't strike me as disgusting that people would find their biology driving them to picture having sex with a person of 15. Further, the age of sexual consent is 15 or lower in a great many countries, so clearly it's not universally reviled. I'm 17, though, so I hope that that prevents you from thinking me too much the sexual deviant. In any case, pedophila technically refers only to desiring sex with pre-pubescents. A 15 year old would probably be curvier than Paris Hilton. I'm sure you can at least agree to that? And BTW, I was joking in that last post. I think you got that, it's just I seem to be being constantly taken seriously these days, and I wouldn't want people think I actually am a pedophile.

I find that both sad and disturbing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why? I find it somewhat dishearening that there aren't enough people in the UK who feel as I do to start a political party, no matter how small, but I've come to accept that I can't change things to the way I'd like them all by myself, and then my only choices are to stay and live in a political system I not only disagree with, but hate with all my heart, or to leave it behind and go somewhere where my beliefs are if not accepted by the majority, at least accepted by somebody. So, I'm moving to NH with the Free State Project. Thousands of Libertarians, all with similar feelings about their governments, will move to New Hampshire and we'll finally have a place for ourselves, where we can live as we want to. Of course, we'll still technically have to live under the laws of the USA's federal government, but our police force might be less than perfect at enforcing some of their more draconian and privacy-invading laws. Listen to me! I'm making it sound as if we're as presecuted as the Jews and looking for a homeland. If that's how I'm coming across, I'm not intending to make it sound like we're being oppressed, or anything. I don't trust them to act fairly and responsibly. Thing is, I trust the government to do that even less. What's more, it's my simple belief that the consumers have more power to change things than they're given credit for. If something is important enough, consumers should be able to do something about it. Citizens have boycotted their governments with armed rebellions in the past many times. Compared to getting a gun and risking your life, a peaceful boycott should be as easy as π. Most people in our county disagree with me. As citizens of a democratic country, that's their right, and if the majority believe that's the way to run a country, then I suppose that's how the country should be run. i'll just go somewhere where the country is run more how I like it. As I've said, though, I feel that some of the allegations AMD are levelling at Intel, particularly the sabotage charge (though it isn't referred to as such), if true would indicate a breach of the fundamental rights of the consumer, and so this may be one of those cases where government intervention is necessary.

i suppose i drew their fire... i'll admit, i'm rarely diplomatic regarding the capitalism/socialism debate. there is no need to be. the evidence beats everybody over the head time and time again (ad nauseum) and they just.don't.get.it. it is tiring at best. you and i do normally agree on said things, btw... taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I can't remember offhand whether we tend to agree on social matters, but yes, we're both firmly on the "right wing" when it comes to economics. I would say though that I have become remarkably more accepting of other systems of government recently. I'll never change the political slant in the UK, and I suppose that if my fellow countrymen are happy with their largely left-wing political system, then by all rights they're entitled to it. I, on the other hand, am leaving for the US (and more specifically, to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project), where at least some people agree with me. After all, just as no one's actually forcing someone to buy a near-monopoly's products, it's not like I'm being forced to stay in a political system I disagree with. I don't like it, so I'll leave. After that, it's not my problem anymore. And with that, I shall bid you all goodnight.

Oui! :D Aside from the words everyone knows (yes, no, hello, goodbye), and the phrase "Do you speak English?", "I am a French telephone" is the entire extent of my French. A friend of mine can say "I am the TV" in fifteen languages. In return for teaching him the Japanese, "Watashi wa terebijion desu", he in turn taught me how to say "I am a french telephone". If anything, it will probably get me some attention if I ever need it and happen to be stranded in France at the time. "

by enforcing other laws that are already on the books. explain how a company can actually be either moral or immoral? these are concepts reserved for human beings. if a company witholds a product that somebody paid for, that is theft, and is illegal. this is unfair trade at best, and thus the rightful domain of the government to adjudicate. or maybe we should just get the government out of business, at which point capitalism will have a chance. your comments are quite often the result of a gross misunderstanding of capitalism. taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh good. Now I can go to bed safe in the knowlege that your far less diplomatic and far more argumentative post will prevent anyone from arguing with me while I am asleep. Thankyou, good night, and have a nice thread, taks. I hope you win.

:D Bravo, Monsieur! Je suis un telephone francais!

It is about fair competition for the benefit of consumers, I agree. Where we likely differ on this issue is the correct way to ensure that happens. I do not believe it is the responsibility of the state to ensure consumers get a fair deal, as long as no one has had their rights violated or a contract breached. I believe that is up to the consumers themselves to ensure this through such things as boycotts, protests, pressure on other businesses that do business with the target company, and so on. Others feel the best way to ensure this is to force business owners to act in a particular way through law. To be honest, I imagine that it probably is, but I personally would consider that sort of legislation to be as unethical, if not moreso, than the practice it is intended to stop. Many would disagree, of course. I doubt I'll ever change their minds. In this case, though, AMD are accusing Intel of breaching contracts (withholding deliveries), and sabotage (which is what deliberately manufacturing products that slow down AMD's products amounts to). Those are things which I consider unethical to the point that they should be illegal, and since I think that I have an extremely high tolerance for keeping legal things which I consider wrong, I believe that speaks volumes about just how bad what Intel is accused of doing is.

Well, to be honest I don't see offering large payments for exclusivity deals as something that should be illegal. The other things on the list, such as withholding delivery of a product which a customer had paid for, or designing their products to inhibit the use of another company's, if true, seem to me to be a serious ethical breach, which Intel should be held to account for. And coming from a commited lassez-faire capitalist such as myself, that says quite a bit. We're not exactly famous for our positive view of antitrust laws, if you know what I mean.

Y'know, I really wish they'd do a French Superman. Has there been a comic like that? Whups the Germans two wars in a row (yeah, I know he technically wasn't around for the first one, but still), kicks the crap out the Vietcong, and singlehandedly renationalises the Suez Canal, etc. etc., giving everyone but the French a reputation for surrender. Le Mann Super, they could call him. Or something. Je suis parlez-vous non Francais. Or something.

Just a Reminder: There are now just under three days left to submit your moves.

Hmph. Well, I think she's attractive. the non-curviness as an appealing change of pace from conventional standards of beauty, for me. That, or my latent pedophilia is getting the better of me. "

The fact that you were scoring higher on standard tests in 6th grade than most 12th graders would lead me to believe that rather than you overcoming a learning disability, you never had one at all. However, since I've never met you in real life, I have nothing concrete to base that argument on, nor for that matter do I have any reason to accept your argument on the basis of a single piece of anecdotal evidence. I doubt we shall agree on this. Shall we call it a draw?

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you saved me from buying it. I don't mind knowing the ending of something I'm about to read. I'm just disappointed at what the ending was.

Oh.

That's as maybe, but you have to be fairly intelligent to self educate yourself, would you not agree? I had a boy in my primary school classes that had learning disabilities. He needed many hours of individual help to learn at a rate even half that of a normal child. Eventually, he got sent to a school for the mentally challenged. I doubt very much that had his parents been neglectful in getting him special help, that he could have self educated himself even if he had wanted to. And even if he could, I could hardly blame him if he didn't want to, given how difficult learning was for him.

Again, though, that wouldn't be her fault, that would be the fault of her parents for not educating her. She can hardly be blamed for the negligence of her parents.

Yes I can, because I was joking before, but being serious in the last post. Nyah.