
Qistina
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Oh please. Spare me that conspiracy theory notion of capitalism as some kind of mythical cabal acting as a single entity. We have access to hundreds (thousands?) of competing news outlets. The idea that collectively, they give us less full and fair access to information about world events, than a centralized state-sponsored media would, is absolutely ludicrous.
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The history of SEA is similar to the history of America during the western conquest...the difference is, us Malay peoples are not like the native Americans, we have our own governments, kingdoms, cities...we are civilized. In fact we hold the most important trade port for sea trade between Africa, India, Arab to China and Japan...because we are in the middle...the west came and change everything...the west want to conquer this trade route...the west is ruthless, notorious, greedy....the west is still like this up to today...."For God, Gold and Glory!" the west say
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Sadly, the world turn eye blind about western attrocities in SEA...we simply do not exist until the modern time...what you know about us is us in the modern time....you see Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, Philipine....you guys have no idea how all these countries come to be, have no idea how the west ****ing us in the history in which lead to the creation of these different countries in SEA....
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[Citation needed.] Or is this the inevitable part of the discussion where the anti-Western zealots descend into throwing around random accusations and expletives to see what sticks? PS: Reminds me of how Antizionists used to persistently accuse the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) of "systematically raping" Palestinian women as some kind of sick racist oppression power-play... without ever providing any evidence for that slander. But then one of those Antizionists did her doctoral thesis on that topic, subjecting it to actual research, and found that the IDF had actually one of the lowest rape rates of any army in the world - even though it is currently engaged in an armed conflict and most other armies are not. And so, without batting an eye, the Antizionists (including the one who did the research) effortlessly switched their narrative to "Not raping Palestinian women proves just how racist the IDF is!!!" All you need.... http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/04/world/asia/04cnd-philippines.html?_r=0 http://bayanusa.org/no-immunity-case-of-us-troops-gang-rape-of-filipina-woman-must-surrender-to-philippine-jurisdiction/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine%E2%80%93American_War Now does anyone want to ask why people hate the west and America/USA?
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i cry everytime thinking about how shame it is....my people was great...holding the biggest sea trade port in the world between the east and the west...have high and advance culture....but when the west come....it was destroyed and never risen again...destroyed to ashes and forgotten...and afterward chaos throughout the land....how my people being fooled, being slaves, being so low to betray own people to serve western masters...become pawns for western masters...and then blood bath...invaded again and again by foreign invaders....we lost our identity, we lost....today my people don't even know what is the meaning of being a Melayu people.....
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We are the generation who pay for what our ancestors did...maybe they dream of a new world, a better world for their grandchildren, maybe they don't even think about it and only thinking to save their butt, maybe they think only what they could think in their time....like us today, do we think about our next generation when we do something?
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Unless the victim was the predator... The west who being scheming all these time through history, the west want to conquer the world, do you ever heard "Eastern Colonization"? Never heard isn't it? Of course i cannot blame and judge all western people today who have nothing to do with what your ancestors does, as well you can't blame and judge me for what my ancestors does....BUT what happen in the past determine what happen today.... It's butterfly effect.... My country will not exist should the west don't invade us, maybe Malay Kingdom of Melaka will fall by itself and replaced by new kingdoms, maybe my people will forever use swords and spears up to today, maybe my people will become so advanced because being a famous trader and hold trade of the east and the west...who know? God know.... But what happen today is because of what happen in the past...the west leave a mark here in SEA....the west leave mark everywhere.....
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Well.....I am South East Booooooo Volourn....
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What happen to the west is western own doing...Jesus say "you reap what you sow"....
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My knowledge of the Philippines history is limited, and I understand that there were at one point a number of different areas that had been influenced by diffierent groups (sometimes being different ethnic groups). Like I said, not trying to excuse the Spanish, who really did run roughshod over it (or even the USA who did some dodgy stuff in the Phillippenes as well, as I recall). If you play Skyrim, the Sulu Sultanate and the Moro fighters are like the Forsworn....the Imperial and Nords fighting over the Reach, while actualy that land belong to Forsworn, but they lost everything...up to today they want to reclaim their old kingdom. Of course their kingdom consist on many tribes , Muslim and non-Muslim. Today it become more and more complicated, with UN, war on terror and such thing.... Yes USA also have making a mess in that area...genocide, rape, and what not? But no one bat an eye....forgotten history
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I think a picture will tell you a story...and again it depends on the states, like i mention earlier northern states are more religious, so you won't find any bikinis or such thing, while southern states are more liberal but still bikinis are not quite acceptable. While for men, mostly they will wear long pants, rarely you find any men wearing short pants or just underwear...and most Malaysians just love to hang around at beaches like this below, you must expect to see old and young peoples, that's why i say if you want to wear bikini or such thing better to make sure no one is around...old folks, even the middle age people, don't like to see people in bikini or short pants
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Keith Ellison of Minnesota is a Muslim and a member of the House of Representatives. A city in Michigan recently elected a majority Muslim city council. One only and recently? my country having non-Muslims in parliament since 50 years ago...
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Personally, I blame christianity Me too...about 500 years ago my land was attacked by Christians, "For God, Gold and Glory!", that's how Christianity comes to my land...first it was Portuguese and they manage to crush Malay Kingdom of Melaka in 1511AD...then the Dutch, Spain and English...all the same...but English is more slicky and diplomatic...you know Philipine? That country was named after Spanish king....it was Malay Moro Muslim land...today those Moro fighters still fighting for independence and they are labelled as terrorists.... Er, forgive me if I do not recall correctly, and I'm not trying to be unfair with respect to the Philippines, but didn't the Bruneian Empire take over land (part of which evenentually becoming Manilla) from the Tonda's and install a muslim rajah by force? And prior to the Moro's intercession, wasn't the primary population of the Phillipines the non-Muslim Tagalog (the Phillippines reflecting, IIRC, mostly indigenous and Hindu influences)? (Note that none of this excuses the Spanish conquistadores, just pointing out that Islam's move into the Philippines wasn't without its own "issues"). That land was Malay Sulu Kingdom, a small kingdom, have being Muslim long before western came. But then Brooke of East India Company British came bombard Borneo and force a treaty with Sultan of Brunei under hundreds of cannons. Spanish took Sulu Island. There are treaties here and treaties there, war here and war there, much like America during western conquest. Therefore Christianity come into that land. Sultan of Sulu lost his kingdom but they (the Sultanate) still exist today, they got compensation. it is complicated because it also involve my country. You see the creation of Malaysia orignaly only consist of peninsular, but part of Borneo being included as a "trade" with the British for Singapore to leave Federation of Malaya and make their own country....Sultan of Brunei don't want to joined Malaysia that's why you find them a little blot on the map...up to today, those area are contested area between Malaysia, Brunei, Sulu, Philipine and Moro fighters...lol...it is a mess...just recently Philipine making a truce with one faction of Moro fighter and my country become the middle man... But the original people are the Moro and they are under Sulu Sultanate, they do not happy with recent event....and of course there are other tribes there... Part of Malaysian-Borneo now is rumored want to leave Malaysia.... There are many tribes of Malays...
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It doesn't matter, my question is rethorical, it just about sentiments, racial and religious profiling in America, will it be the same if white-American and Christian do similar thing toward Muslims, burning Muslim country flag, bring banners or cartoons insulting Islam, burn the Quran and bring weapons in a rally...compared with Muslim-Americans burning American flag, bring banners or cartoon insulting Christians, burn the Bible and bring weapons in a rally...? America always want to be a hero of freedom and justice, a land of concious and reason, the police of the world...but this same country didn't show what being bragging about... There is no Muslims in American parliament, no Muslim political candidates, no Muslims in government of America...racism is still high in America... My country is better than America...having non-Muslims ministers in the government, non-Muslim political candidates, non-Muslims in parliament and they are a lot....all races are in the government office and law enforcement...
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Personally, I blame christianity Me too...about 500 years ago my land was attacked by Christians, "For God, Gold and Glory!", that's how Christianity comes to my land...first it was Portuguese and they manage to crush Malay Kingdom of Melaka in 1511AD...then the Dutch, Spain and English...all the same...but English is more slicky and diplomatic...you know Philipine? That country was named after Spanish king....it was Malay Moro Muslim land...today those Moro fighters still fighting for independence and they are labelled as terrorists....
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I forgot to mention...how you will be treated also depends on which state you are in...northen states are more religious than southern states in Malaysia...northen states such as Kelantan is highly religious to a point almost extreme, it is highly advise not to disrespect Islam there in anyway...i myself not likely want to stay in Kelantan...i was there once, everyone just look at me wierdly because i didn't go to the mosque at prayer time...but i hear whispers saying "an outsider...", i was there just because following my frend for some business...even non Hijabi women will wear Hijab if going to that particular state... Southern states such as Selangor, Melaka and Johor are more liberal...and almost westernized in many ways...
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You are welcome Surely it will not be fair if i tell you about my country, surely i will tell you my country is like heaven on earth...so it is better for you to hear from someone who is not from here but living here for sometime isn't it? Good or bad, i don't mind, it is their experience But i can tell you that my country is secular, you don't have much problem living here if you want to, the problems might be miscommunications, we understand English but we might not understand it as you understand it, and you might not understand our English either, like you can see in this thread, my English is broken i know...other than this, there might have some cultural clash, mind you that cultural clash doesn't always religious, just cultural... For example, we don't kiss publicly, so you don't, never, don't even think about want to hug and kiss publicly or you will find yourself surrounded by people and police will come...maybe you might forgot because you are used to hug and kiss publicly...but nothing will harm you if you doing so, the worst is you will get warning by the friendly police officer....unless you want to be jerk and talking about rights and so on... Do not wear bikini for any reason unless there is no one at the beach...yes there are swimming pools and theme park here where peoples wear bikini, but do not wear bikini at beaches...because Malaysians don't like it and similar things as above will happen if you wear bikini in public beaches Hmmm...what next...? Always becareful for merchants and taxi drivers who will always want to con you, believe me, they will con you...and don't travel alone, do not assume everyone are nice and don't want to rob you or rape you...the safest place are mosques or any temples or churches should you have some troubles, good peoples are there... I used to live in Kuala Lumpur...the most advance city in Malaysia, but now i live a small backwater "city" almost look like Whiterun in Skyrim...just joking...small town being called city just because there is a royal palace here...i cannot say which city is good or bad for living, it depends on your money...for Malaysians, KL is too rich and elite....there are other major cities such as Johor Bahru or JB, Kuantan or in the Borneo like Kuching and Kota Kinabalu or KK....i really can't tell, it depends on your money. Oh other thing...there are beers and wines all you want...but do not drink it publicly especially infront of Muslims...it is rude...even the beers and wines are sold publicly, do not drink it publicly...just go somewhere not public...Chinese and Indians who are non-Muslims will not mind if you drink infront of them
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Or you just can watch Gordon Hell ktchen show..if you like to eat much..
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Some westerners are good, there are many backpackers and tourists here, some even stay here as resident...some are bad and doing whatever they want as if they own the world. I myself meet many western tourist, i just don't mind them unless they ask me something...but most malaysians as i said are still looking at white people highly, they will be overjoyed if white people say "hello"...for most people here white peoples are gods and goddesses...so you don't have to worry. maybe you will want to watch such videos...
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I know American police just shoot people if seeing carrying weapons...especially non-white Americans...i see these a lot on your news...some who get shot don't even carry weapon but gadgets or something on the hand believed to be a weapon...so don't tell me they will ask for permit first, i know....we have internet here...but those rally at mosque no one care they carrying weapons And i don't say police in my country is good, they are all the same...police are never good but we need them isn't?
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What you have, my country have it too, we have parliament, political parties, we are democracy, we have women rights, women rights movements, now even LGBT movement, we have liberal movement, Islamic movement, nationalist movement, human rights movements, and what not? But America attack on Islam and Muslims, in response of 9/11 America label ALL Muslims despite the retraction statement by your presiden regarding the "peaceful/moderate Muslims"...who are the west want to label this and that as "peaceful/moderate Muslim" and "terrorist/extremist Muslim"? Do us Muslims must follow your label? "oh we are peaceful/moderate Muslims because USA say so..." Anti-Islam campaign is real, as a Muslim i who live in SEA got the heat...you see the propaganda is first against Islam, "Islam is religion of terror", War on Terror means war on islam. I was actively "fighting" on You Tube but then i feel stupid...because it never end and because what is the point? Muslims have been labelled so much to the point resisting is pointless... You know MH370 incident? CNN try to make it like an attempt of terrorism just because our pilots are Muslims....for months CNN try to connect this case with Islamic terrorism...they don't want to take it as accident or something else, they just jump into "Islamic terrorism"...
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Really? But if Muslims in America make rally and shout "Death to America!", bring weapons, burning American flag, drawing your presiden face funnily or even Jesus, burn the Bible...they will get shot by the police isn't it?
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I watched CNN, Fox News, Jon Stewart Daily Show and Stephen Colbert the same time...that's how i get the idea of what America really is...
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Well i am only respond here because in early post i saw "religion of peace strikes again" post AND someone talk about my country...i only respond...don't expect you guys don't get respons....
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Some in the USA tend to rally and shout at stuff - even stupid stuff. Its part of the freedom of speech/assembly/association thing. And just because people can do it doesn't mean they're not rejected as silly extremists and dismissed by the larger population. But understand just because we allow someone to act a fool in public doesn't mean we condone foolishness. It may seem a subtle distinction, but it is a distinction. Is this your precious Free Speech? What's the difference between this Free Speech and Muslim mobs shouting "death to America!"? i see no difference there...but the Muslim mobs are portrayed as "terrorists", yours portrayed as "hero of freedom"