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  1. I should also say that I don't think Georgia is innocent but people keep claiming they aattacked Russia and they did no such thing.

     

    They attacked our peacekeepers. It's enough justification for me to fight back. Not that I really approve the prolonged occupation of parts of Georgia proper.

     

    As far as Kosovo. Yes it's hypocrisy. The so called differences are all bull****, the main things are all exactly the same. The only difference is, Georgia is America's pet and Serbs weren't. I don't know about the numbers of dead, but NATO did the same exact thing, the numbers of albanians killed where not nearly what they said they were.

     

    First of all Fighter you should inform that the russian troops in South Osetia were as peacekeepings because of an agreement between the georgian government, the russian government and the south ossetian and abjazians :lol:

  2. Perhaps reading Slavoj Zizek and playing EU:Rome was not the best idea, but at least I have a big empire.

     

    Normal difficulty, played from 536AVC (Second Punic War).

     

    How did you get the screenshot in the EU:Rome Tigranes? When i tried it in EU III i only got a pathetic map of all the world, but too little too see anything :shifty:

  3. Edit: And no, it isn't a trick question or bait, I am honestly curious about what those differences could be.

     

    The problem here Gorth is there is NO difference, is like tomorrow USA gets angry with Turkey and decides accept the independence of Kurdistan, will be the same.

  4. "Well, the "thousands of casualties and tens of thousands of refugees" are from a paper from the US Library of Congress, not my invention (I think I posted the link previously in this thread, or was that at WW? Thats possible). Blame them if they are fiddling with the numbers. Mind you, this was in 1991 when the Georgians wanted to wipe out any sense of "Ossetian" cultural integrity."

     

    I was referring to the most recent fighting. Not since the whole dispute started.

     

     

     

    "There is only 1 difference some countries accepted the independence of Kosovo (46) but now dont accept the independence of South Ossetia and Abjazia"

     

    That's because those countries know there are differences between the two different situations. And, it's far from the only difference between the two.

     

    The only difference is accept the independence of Abjazia and South Ossetia means get upset uncle Sam o:)

     

    For example Turkey accepts from the albanese in Kosovo the same things she denies to her kurdish, in my country that is called hipocresy, in yours i dont know :shifty:

  5. The deed is done, Russia recognises the independant S Ossetia and Abkhazia. London the first in the line to "blast" a "direct violation of numerous U.N. Security Council resolutions regarding Georgia's territorial integrity". Will of the people, 2 decades of struggle & a western ushered precedens be dammned.

     

    Anyone surprised?

     

    lol

     

    The english always were very funny

  6. "Georgia started the war,"

     

    No, they didn't. They never attacked Russia.

     

     

    Wrong answer Volourn, Georgia attacked South Osetia, while there was in the zone russian forces and killed 10 russian soldiers, then Georgia STARTED the war.

     

    Serbia didnt attacked the NATO and the NATO bombed Serbia

  7. Part of the problem with quoting sources from the other side is that alot of them are Russian and we all know the credibility of Russian media...

     

    But then, what's to say that just because a source is peer reviewed and part of a free press it can't be biased? Neutral commentary is most credible when it comes from a neutral source. Given the amount of half-truths that's been bandied about during the course of this conflict, I'm really not about to trust any one media source. A list of mutually independent sources, in this case, seems more dependable.

     

     

  8. I thought quebec voted to remain in Canada?

     

    In Kosovo was the parliament who decided the independence, a parlament EMPTY of serbians >_<

     

    You mean like the Quebecois assembly was empty of other Canadians? I don't know much about the period.

     

     

    Nop, Walsingham, I'm saying the Quebecois independentists could win the independence if the other decide not go to the elections and haven't anyone to talk for them in the parlament :thumbsup:

  9. Canada joins the "Hipochresy Club", recognizes Kosovo but denies the same chance to Quebec :ermm:

     

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=384325

     

    Canada recognizes independent Kosovo

     

    Case has no bearing on Quebec, says Bernier

     

    Matthew Jay, Canwest News Service Published: Wednesday, March 19, 2008

     

    OTTAWA - Canada has officially recognized Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence, despite fears the move could encourage sovereigntists in Quebec.

     

    Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier said Tuesday that Canada would "join the international community" in recognizing the sovereign independence of the Balkan republic, citing Canada's commitment under NATO and the UN to protect Kosovo.

     

    "It's why today, in this context, that Canada acknowledges the new international reality and will recognize Kosovo as an independent state," he said.

     

    In response, the Serbian ambassador in Ottawa, Dusan Batakovic, has been temporarily recalled to Belgrade.

     

    According to Mr. Bernier, Canada wanted to ensure it fully understood the situation before making any announcement about the status of Kosovo.

     

    "It was important for us, in the beginning, to assess the situation on the ground," he said. "It's an important decision for a country, when you have to recognize another country. We took our time and now we're ready to do it."

     

    As for the withdrawal of the Serbian ambassador, Mr. Bernier said the move was not unexpected.

     

    "We're not surprised about that. It's their [serbia's] decision." he said.

     

    The foreign affairs minister referred to Kosovo as a unique case, because of the past conflict with its neighbours. He denied it had any similarity to a claim for Quebec sovereignty.

     

    "It's a unique case and as a declaration issued by Kosovo's parliament also makes clear, and this is what's important for us, the unique circumstances which have led to Kosovo's independence mean it does not constitute any kind of precedent," he said.

     

    Canada had previously remained on the fence over the issue, mainly due to sensitivity over the historical standoff with Quebec separatists and a rising concern in Ottawa that a declaration had provoked the beginnings of a major East-West split.

     

    The Parti Quebecois seized on the federal government's decision, seeing a parallel with its own goal of making Quebec a country independent of Canada.

     

    "We are happy because in recognizing the political independence of Kosovo, Canada is recognizing the entry, legally and democratically, of this new independent state into the international community," Daniel Turp, the party's international relations critic, said in a statement.

     

    PQ leader Pauline Marois was not available to reporters, but Francois Gendron, the party's house leader in the National Assembly, said Kosovo could be an example for Quebec.

     

    "I say bravo, sincerely," Mr. Gendron said commenting on Canada's decision to recognize the breakaway Serbian province.

     

    Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence is an illustration of "the liberty of people to assume what I want for Quebec," he added.

     

    Nations have an "innate, fundamental" right to self-determination Mr. Gendron added, and Canada has recognized Quebec as a nation but "without meaning anything."

     

    The Serbian ambassador expressed his disappointment with the Canadian decision Tuesday.

     

    "This is a precedent set in a very dangerous way. We are very unhappy because we consider Canada a friendly country, with 200,000 Serb-Canadians living here and giving a great contribution to our bilateral relations," said Mr. Batakovic.

     

    Mr. Batakovic disagreed with Mr. Bernier on the similarities between Kosovo and Quebec, however. The ambassador pointed to the Clarity Act and the defined conditions under which a province could secede from Canada.

     

    "The Canadian Clarity Act, which defines how Quebec can become independent, has its counterpart documents in both Serbian and international law," Mr. Batakovic said.

     

    "The clarity act for Kosovo is the Serbian constitution and UN Security Council Resolution 1244 which defines Kosovo solely as an integral part of Serbia with the right to enhanced autonomy and nothing more."

     

    The ambassador said Canada would regret its decision. He denied Serbia would retaliate diplomatically, but acknowledged that a significant breakdown relations would likely occur.

     

    "We are a democratic country and we will not use retaliation," Mr. Batakovic said. "It is sad that the growing economic exchange between Canada and Serbia might slow down and that many very useful bilateral initiatives will suffer."

     

    Kosovo's ethnic Albanian-dominated parliament unilaterally declared independence from Serbia on Feb. 17. Since then, about 30 countries have recognized its independence.

     

    In a move similar to Canada's, Hungary could recognize Kosovo's independence today after a weekly cabinet meeting, a Foreign Ministry spokesman said in Budapest.

     

    The spokesman told AFP an official decision will be announced after today's meeting when asked about Croatian press reports about a recognition.

     

    A western diplomat in Budapest, who asked not to be named, told AFP he "had similar information" about Hungary's recognition of Kosovo.

     

    Croatian dailies reported Tuesday that Bulgaria, Croatia and Hungary could recognize Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence today.

     

    Bulgarian Prime Minister Sergey Stanishev told a radio station, however, that "Bulgaria will certainly not recognize Kosovo on Wednesday," as the next government meeting is not until Thursday.

     

    Istvan Pasztor, president of the main Hungarian association in Vojvodina, an autonomous Serbian province neighbouring Hungary, warned that recognizing Kosovo could endanger Vojvodina's ethnic Hungarian minority of some 350,000 people.

     

    "We're afraid that Serb nationalists will target Hungarian minorities in Vojvodina after Budapest recognizes Kosovo on Wednesday," he told Hungarian news agency MTI.

     

    When events first began to unfold in Kosovo, the Canadian Foreign Affairs Department issued a statement saying it was "assessing the situation" while, at the United Nations, Canada monitored a crisis meeting of the Security Council on the subject.

     

    The UN has run Kosovo since a NATO bombing campaign -- in which Canada participated -- forced Serbia to withdraw its forces from the region almost a decade ago. NATO acted to end a brutal crackdown ordered by then-Serb leader Slobodan Milosevic on the ethnic-Albanian majority in Kosovo.

     

    Serbs consider Kosovo an important part of their cultural and religious heritage, but the ethnic-Albanian community rebuffed UN efforts to broker a deal whereby the Serb province would have been granted "supervised" independence

  10. Austria could be a better place if we'd get rid of this unbearable and faceless Republic... and best bring the Monarchy back, like half of Europe consists of. It would be a good start to get rid of these tiresome party fights and show more political ambitions and progression!

     

     

    Seems Morgoth miss the old times of the Dual Monarchy :)

  11. What you call overly optimistic is in other circumstances is called daring. OVERLORD would be a good example. There were many intelligence surprises on D-Day, such as the moving of batteries, the dropping of thousands of paratroops into flooded areas, and the unexpected strength of the 352nd Panzergrenadier Division. But it came off OK. Hurrah. If it had not, what would we think of its architects?

     

    A good example was Pointe du Hoc attacked for the 2nd Ranger Battalion, to destroy the guns that the "intelligence" said the germans had there but there was no guns :lol:

     

    Only one thing Walsingham, the 352 was an Infanterie Division not a Panzergrenadier, the "mistake" here was say it was a "static" division not a regular one o:)

     

     

    LXXXIV.Armeekorps: General der Artillerie Erich Marcks 8.01.43 - 6.12.44

    Cos: Oberstlt Friedrich von Criegern ??.??.43 - ??.??.44

     

    716.Infanterie-Division: Genmj/Genlt Wilhelm Richter 4.01.43 - 9.??.44

    352.Infanterie-Division: Genlt Dietrich Kraiss 11.06.43 - 8.02.44

    709.Infanterie-Division: Generalleutnant Karl-Wilhelm von Schlieben 12.12.43 - 6.23.44

    319.Infanterie-Division: Genmj/Genlt Rudolf graf von Schmettow 9.01.43 - 2.27.45

    Ostregimentstab 752: Oberst Julius Coretti 4.??.44 - 7.??.44

     

    http://www.feldgrau.com/oob44.html

     

    P.D.- The 2 pics of the begining of this topic are from the Second World War, there is no one from the first :lol:

  12. I know Walsingham, but even if the media talks about it sometimes doesn't happen anything the RUC wasn't better than the Serbian police with the IRA and noone give the independence to North Ireland, remember the UK had to send their "Paras" to North Ireland to fight the IRA, just like the Serbians with his army to fight the UCK

     

     

  13. Not really. I'd have thought that Kosovo has special cause to want to secede given Serbian warlike behaviour.

     

     

    The "behaviour" of the Serbs in Kosovo wasn't worst than the "behaviour" of the Georgian army in the wars in Osetia and Abjazia, and if is for the "behaviour" remember that now in La Haya the International Court has a trial against a Croatian general for the murder of Serbian civilians when they retake Krajina

  14. We have other 2 new countries, but these new countries want their independence from an US ally in a "hot zone". Do you want bet US will not recognize their independence? :shifty:

     

    Abjazia and South Osetia asked almost 1 week ago to US, and the UE to recognize their independence from Georgia as they did with Kosovo

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