Humodour

Haha. http://physorg.com/news124444599.html I always suspected Americans and Europeans had some sort of humour deficit. I guess I was correct.

Azarkon: Threads aren't personal interchanges between only two people, sorry. Cantousant: You're right; my response to Azarkon was fairly pointless. Just as pointless as Azarkon's reference to animal rights militants in response to Gromnir. Why bring up militant groups in a topic that's got nothing to do with them? Azarkon would liken those pro animal rights to militant zealots, but that carries as much truth as stereotyping pro-lifers as abortion clinic bombers. The link is tenuous. Can you understand that now? It's got nothing to do with chimps... I would think that's self-evident considering neither I nor he mentioned chimps in regard to that specific issue. Why? You've certainly made your stance on the issue clear. But you haven't given any justification besides "because they aren't us". I'm only advocating the right to survival, so don't get your knickers in a knot thinking it means a chimp's going to take your job. But hey, you get all fired up and angry if you want. I'm sure it helps somehow?

So how do animal rights militants play into all this? You know, the guys who put bombs under people's cars in order to get them to stop the "inhumane" treatment of animals? Probably the same place as pro-life militants that put bombs in abortion clinics? Use a brain.

Well, considering that 'humans' interbred with chimpanzees for about 5 million years before it became genetically impossible (at about 4 million years ago), our genetic material is almost identical except for mostly junk DNA and environmental changes, and that chimps have all the basic mental assets of humans (arithmetic, tool use, language, culture, altruism, laughter, jealousy, learning, self-awareness, etc), I think there's a stronger case for giving them rights (in the human rights sense) than any other animal. Fact of the matter is, many of them have levels of personality and intelligence exceeding certain groups of society (e.g. the mentally retarded). But it'll never happen because people don't like to think we're related to apes, especially religious fanats. Plus, it'd make the pharmaceutical companies that use them as lab rats look bad. Even though chimpanzees are an endangered species. Hell, on the evolution note: chimp chromosomes are near identical to human ones. The 2 chromosome has fused in humans from two chimpanzee 2 chromosomes - there's actually proof this happened because there are telomeres in the middle of the human 2 chromosome... telomeres only occur on the end of chromosomes to prevent damage to the end of the chromosome during replication. Genetically, we may only have 98.5% of our DNA in common with chimps, but the interesting thing is that the 1.5% difference is mostly junk DNA (as well as viral immunity, gene duplication, things like that based which are species neutral). The important small number of differences, things like cranial capacity, hair loss, etc, are mostly controlled by a only one or two genes. In fact, hair loss is thought to have occurred only 240,000 years ago due to only copy of a gene being deleted (even though we have 9 more). Much of chimpanzee intelligence, personality and culture is as environment dependent as in humans. Humans only developed language at 70,000 years ago, probably due to the innovation of one or two individuals. It might have spurred human progress since, but it's not the selective force behind human intelligence. I wonder how "smart" you'd be if you were raised from birth without in a society without human tools, including language and fire? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape_lan...f_sign_language http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanzi#Example...zi.27s_behavior On a complete tangent, the average female chimpanzee weighs about 40kg, is 3ft tall, and is about 5 times stronger than the average adult male. If you ever get in a fight with a chimp, run away and live to tell the tale.

Why don't we have a look at the hundreds of young "men" who were executed for shell shock? Many of them kids around the age of 15 and 16. Those who experienced shell shock were considered weak, cowardly and to have no moral character. If they weren't executed they were sent back to the front lines within 48 hours. It's not called shellshock anymore, though. Now it is post-traumatic stress syndrome. It didn't stop at WW1, either.

Well, 420 was weird. I was so hoping they'd show what happened to the humans of the future, or something of the sort, but no. Lame. Not even any Red Dwarf jokes besides the reference to holograms. Not a bad ep, though.

Will this game have potatoes?

Are you sober?

Their Skynet came first.

How often do you see a small unimportant town make headlines around the globe? There are so many bad taste comebacks to that. Which we won't make because that would be wrong. No, go ahead.

How often do you see a small unimportant town make headlines around the globe?

Meerkats are so much better than cheetahs.

I can vote for PC and Linux separately? lol thread

Haha I think he's joking. It's a good way to draw attention to the cemetery overcrowding problem.

Kendra? No way... she had a mother who was well known (not just in her head) and when the hybrid is talking to her, he alludes to the fifth Cylon, and it doesn't seem to be her. Plus she's currently working on other projects like Life on Mars. Is it possible that the final five are all human/Cylon hybrids like Hera & Nick? It'd explain why they are immune to that earth rat virus for example, as well as the issue of having history and parents. I reckon the centurions will turn on the humanoid Cylons for the very same reason the Cylons turned on the humans. There's a lot against Starbuck as a Cylon, I agree. But there's also a lot against any of the other 4 as Cylons, too. I mean Tigh? C'mon! Still, how did she come back? According to the shows' creator, she did die. Heck, really, Tigh was a soldier in the first Cylon War when the basic work model was all that existed and rebelled. How exactly is he a Cylon? Hmm, it's all getting too mystical and religious for me. http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/The_Destiny

Agreed. I want a show about robots, not religion. The robots can turn rogue or become human or whatnot if they so desire, but let's keep the religious connotations to a minimum. In the show it's recognised that many humans believe in various gods (as well as some being atheist), which adds to the credibility of them as a society, but when they start to actually bring in supernatural phenomena it gets stupid. I'm personally hoping Starbuck IS a Cylon, so we have a reason for all this prophecy stuff (e.g. it was her subconscious giving her hints, and she didn't rise from the dead, she just downloaded to a resurrection ship or something)

Who? The early hybrid version? No. The "Razor" in question. Dude, it's been ages since I saw season 3 or Razor. Do you really need to be cryptic? And if you mean Starbuck, I think you're wrong (from clues and hints in the series and by the writers).

T-888 is an infiltration model. So except for the T-600 in the future 'flashback' episode (which was emotionless), the models are designed to replicate human facial expressions/emotions somewhat, I guess.

Haha. I remember this thread. <3

I'm bothered by it to.

What does that even mean? Even without some external/man caused catastrophe (giant asteroid, magnetic poles reversing, atomic war, minature black hole being created in a particle accelerator, etc) the solar system will only last so long; if we stay on earth (and assuming we're still there for the event) we'd be vaporized when the sun turns into a red giant (and frankly if we were just in the solar system we might still have some issues). All life on Earth will be dead in 1 billion years, due to Earth's orbit drawing us closer to sun, and sun itself expanding a bit more. Not much in hindsight - life has only existed for like 4 billion years.

Who? The early hybrid version?

There's not a lot of information about Goners that I recall other than it being a supernatural thriller he was working on. Universal has the option on it and AFAIK has yet to see a draft they liked enough to green-light it (Joss has been - movie wise - in draft hell with this and the now dead attempt to do Wonder Woman). Tim's not had a lot of success with non-Joss shows, it seems, having had several cancelled (Wonder Falls, The Inside, Drive) without filling out their run. I quite liked Wondferfalls. But i like oddball comedy. Did you watch Dead Like Me? I think you'd enjoy it thoroughly if you liked Wonderfalls. They were both (co-)created by Bryan Fuller.

Wasn't that Bryan Fuller?

Yeah me and bloggy express some random thoughts about it here: http://www.mistresslair.net/forum/showthre...10511#post10511