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  1. One of the reasons I sponsor games like this is to avoid the whole publisher model due to regional pricing (Im from Australia orginally). Will this pricing result in people in Australia whole did not back this game having to pay significantly more than thoose elsewhere?
  2. One of the things I loved about IE games was the detailed manuals and tables, I had to double my level when I heard the manual was at the $50 level
  3. One of the things I loved about IE games was the detailed manuals and tables, I had to double my level when I heard the manual was at the $50 level
  4. Don't forget druids as well :b And rangers and barbarians are just glorified shamanistic versions of the paladin and monk.. But seriously paladins, priests, monks and bards (I know its not quite a bard) are common RPG troupes
  5. Highly unlikely, just like it is unlikely they'll be like enchanters (covered by ciphers anyways) from guildwars or eq. Although you probably could roll a priest like ritualistic chanter which would match closely the chantry style characters if you wanted.
  6. While I agree that is true it would be great have to point out that it has been done. In bg2 as you say, but also ofcourse god of war, the game that let's you play as one of the four the horse men (can't remember its name), devine divinity, arguably titans quest, and quite a few others. Still that's not to say its inclusion would be a bad thing. There could be a dragon lance style trail of the twins story line even...
  7. Arg, I felt the same way, just was hoping no one would state that as now everyone is going to spam how atheist paladins don't make sense. That said when I read the paladin description I did a happy little dance.
  8. I love the new classes this will let me build amoral paladins and regilous and lawful bards. Should produce interesting parties.
  9. So if belief is the maker of the planes then atheists threaten everything with their questioning, can we kill the heretics then? See the whole idea is already inspiring story arc's. A church may very well feel that way, paradoxically justifying the god slayers own prejudices.
  10. That would actually be quite cool. But if the deities (or, plot twist!: the simply extremely powerful mortals masquerading as gods) wield god-level powers and are impossible to locate, the atheist movement would be a short-lived affair. And as I suspect that the deities of this world will have those powers, I doubt we'll see any crusading atheists in Project Eternity. Warhammer 40k actually springs to mind on this. That is the gods there were parasitic feeding off souls. As for crusading atheists its undeniable some people will role play these. As role-playing the only remaining question is one of mechanics and scope.
  11. Well we know from the last update it isn't. It was very clear that the practitioner's faith sparked the power of their soul rather than the god in question granting the abilities.
  12. it goes hand in hand with the whole perceived sexism thing... it's pretty barf inducing to be honest. Video games are notorious for this in recent years (*obligatory BioWare reference!*). My biggest fear is that in Obsidian's writers' minds these things might be synonymous with the concept of "mature themes". Which is always most likely either a grimdark setting or a bunch of Evil People Who Fight for Good (or vice versa). As much as I hate the whole "mature themes" schtick meaning "sexual progressiveness" or make-believe-fantasy-atheism (for the love of rage, they're there, we can see them, they talk to us, we heal people for crying out loud!) some other horse**** like that... I don't see how that relates to Grimdark. I do love myself some Grimdark. I'm confused, what do you consider mature themes if not things that raise questions of race, religion, gender politics or the human condition? These are fair game in fantasy and sci-fi novels in a way not available for more serious genres so why not in games?
  13. Given bg:2 flirted with the idea and there is a fanasty theme of murder the gods. It wouldn't be out of place. Just saying. Also this is anti-theist not atheist.
  14. Oh you stripped out that it was me you where quoting. Never mind. Before I respond to any thing else I feel its worth noting that a mage really isn't a preist without belief in a god. A preist fills a separate roll in a party to a mage. Im afraid I dont follow your logic that "an atheist preist does not make sense because an atheist preist does not make sense". That is a tautology. Caps dont really do much to help make your poiint either. I would love to know the reason it doesn't make sense. I trust though from the focus on preist you agree atheist monks and ruids at least make sense. So I appreciate that. As for why I think it does make sense: The game designers have indicated that the souls themselves play an active roll in the game universe. The description of the preist class included this statement: " here are ranks of dedicated adventuring or mercenary priests who have turned the flame of their faith into a spark to ignite the power of their souls. Such men and women have found a divine link to their chosen deity, but their abilities stem solely from within." So they have clearly indicated that a preist's spells are examples of the preist's power not of their chosen ethos. Thus an atheist preist could be described as someone who has turned the flame of their faith in humanity (elfanity? Dwarfanity? whatever) or themself or the rejection of the need for gods into a spark to ignite the power of their souls. See fits perfectly fine. As for it being illogical I have been told that in this world god exists, and his presents is self evident and not to belief is illogical... Yet they still exist in our world. Why would this fanasty setting be any less rich on this subject. Especially considering one of the reasons the developers wanted to use kick starter was so they could explorer mature themes. Pretty sure discussions about the existance of super powerful intervening pregenitors and if those pregenitors exist have rights on the ownership of mortals firmly falls in the category of mature conversations regardless your view on the answer. So to repeat myself, stating a blind assertion in caps doesn't prove your point. Nor do tautologies also if you dont want to play an atheist priest then well dont. peace out
  15. The lady of pain has come up a bit and I have to chip in on that. On other notes I'd like to see lovecraftian gods, warhammer 40k gods, even fun entities love the american gods. Tricksters and bullies. Creatures of madness and pain. Just like you cant become a ceo without breaking a few laws, I doubt you could become a god in a fanastasy setting without being dark at the core.
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