Darji
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please keep multiplayer out of this game. Concentrate fully on the SP aspect... Multiplayer are just extra costs which could be spend for a much better SP experience.
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Personally I would say 4 as party members you can actually have at the same time but also additional potential ones. So that they also could leave your group permanently if they don't agree with your decisions or actions or you could switch out in your base.
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Tropes that could be avoided
Darji replied to Margaretha's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
Hello Darji. This is the internet and I find myself disagreeing with you. I know, it may be a surprise. First of all, I am not telling the developers what they should do. I (and others here) am just saying what I would like to see, what I, humbly and personally, care about because I enjoy CRPGs and I am looking closely at this project. So, I am sure we have much in common. Maybe you knew it but could not express it properly (it is fine, I am not clear myself when writing in this language). Unfortunately, this is internet. Sexism is a hot topic and causes many threads to be closed. Many players do not see an issue in sexism. You do not and you are even fed up with the topic, like Badmojo. I am sorry you feel this way but please, let's just be... cautious and respectful. If you wanted to win something, I give you all. You won, I will not be able to fight a troll war in english. NOW, about tropes/stereotypes/<any word people prefer> and Project Eternity: Obsidian probably already chose much of what is going to be put into the game, they gave us this forum nonetheless. I chew the bone happily. One thing I would like to say is that Obsidian is in a position to renew CRPGs. To invent something. I think that giving a kick in some "tropes" (the ones I do not like, of course), could be what could make this game a great game, a new reference. Choosing to step deliberately aside from the gaze of the horny teenage (and male, and white, and straight) computer-roleplaying geek we all have been to some extend. (btw, Brienne > Red Sonja) Here is the thing Margaretha. These topics especially about Woman in video games went in the last couple of weeks to level of pure stupidity. I am pretty sure you know the tropes in vdeogames kickstarter right? We are already that far that these so called feminists calling a game like Ico sexist only because you don't play a girl or have to protect a helpless girl. We are at a level were we call great indy games sexist. These people scream for equality in games but on the other hand cry out loud when woman get hurt in videogames and calling it rape culture (Hitman: Absolution or the new Tomb Raider is a good example for these "arguments". Its gone to a level that is not helathy for everyone anymore. And I am sorry when I am think of it. I don't have anything against strong Women in games actually I love them My bests friends are women and I have absolutely no problem here but its getting really tiresome. Something I don't want to have to worry here at all. I have played many games from these people and they never try to portrait woman in a sexist way. And if you believe it or not there are many woman in the real world which tlove attention or witch love to look sexy. And these characters should be exist in these kind of games as well. Not all women are strong and have a lot of self esteem or as of course not all men. Also tropes are a part of video games and their culture as well are these tropes are part of our whole society. What would a fantasy adventure without romance or a damsel in distress? Without someone you love and you have to rescue. And yes this could be a man or a woman. What would an RPG without these "animals" that are attacking you and totally not react like they would in real life? It would be pretty boring. What I am trying to say with my bad English is that Tropes done right are not a bad thing. Let Obsidian just do their Job they know how to write characters and stories that are not sexist in any way. -
Please include women with shirts on.
Darji replied to Belias's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
Imagine you are in a bar. A sexy woman in revealing clothes is flirting with you. Animates you to drink, is touching you all over. You will never know what has hit you^^- 310 replies
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Please include women with shirts on.
Darji replied to Belias's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
If her goal is to distract men while she robs them blind, she wouldn't be wearing armour at all. Many woman actually playing heir cards like that. Even if they are not aware of that. And its not a bad thing or a think they should ashamed of. Its the nature. Animals do the exact same.- 310 replies
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Please include women with shirts on.
Darji replied to Belias's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
Yeah totally agree. There could be Female thiefs for example who exactly do this to distract people while stealing etc. And yes if they were less armor give them boni to agility or evasion and minus in armor for example.- 310 replies
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I am guessing that they already have some concepts of the world so they cant just fill in races that normally would not even fit in the lore or the world overall. I am fine with interesting new races as long they have their place in this world, have a history and so on. I think that is the hardest part to integrate some new stuff in a actual existing fantasy setting.
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Tropes that could be avoided
Darji replied to Margaretha's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
Also, pet peeve of mine: choosing the right dialogue options to get laid. A female wouldn't be attracted as much to what you say as what you do and what you are. In a realistic situation, if you're trying to decide on what the right answer is, you'd probably have no chance anyway. Maybe just leave the romance thing out? Of course you can get "laid" with the right answers in real life^^ And omg its still a game you can not be as real as possible. If I just hear they never get animals right.... You can also do that with all the wrong answers if you are the right type of dude, and all the right answers won't help you if you aren't. But that's beyond the scope of this forum so I'm not debating this here. Just stating that the romance thing in RPG games ends up being a little juvenile most of the time. Baldurs Gate did again a fine job. This is not Bioware.... Why not trust them a little bit instead of trying to tell them what "tropes" (what terrible fad at the moment) they should avoid. But... Baldur's Gate was Bioware? You can not compare Bioware now with Bioware back than. All the talent Bioware had is long gone. -
Please include women with shirts on.
Darji replied to Belias's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
I think Triss and Geralt in Witcher 2 were fine. When Triss was out and about, she dressed practically (and still looked really attractive, IMO). When Triss and Geralt had sex, surprise, they didn't wear clothing. It's not unreasonable to expect prostitutes or anyone engaged in sexual activities to wear sexualized (or no) clothing. When people who are engaged in mortal combat dress like sex workers as a rule, that's when the characters become hard to take seriously. This should apply to both male and female characters. EDIT: There are also conventions you can establish for certain types of characters that still remain egalitarian. E.g. in 3E/3.5, sorcerers were sort of presented as wild "sexytyme" spellcasters who lost their shirts. The iconic sorcerer was a dude in a strap corset. This even carried over to Seoni, the iconic Pathfinder sorceress (in fact, many Pathfinder female characters dress in heavy armor). Barbarians, male or female, generally just don't wear a lot of clothes, in any setting. That's where you get a lot of the "classic" Frazetta/Vallejo look. I think having a good range is important. If male plate armor for heavy fighters looks like Maximilian plate out of the Holy Roman Empire and the female equivalent looks like a bikini, that's some serious male gazin'. That is is the perfect way to go. I knew I can trust Obsidian with stuff like characters, design and story. Stuff like prostitution or even sexy looking man and woman should be in these games because that's how the world in reality is as well. And Yeah The Witcher 2 did a fantastic job in this aspect as well. And I would never think that you would go the "new" Bioware way anyway. People trust these guys they know what they are doing in terms of characters and writing.- 310 replies
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Tropes that could be avoided
Darji replied to Margaretha's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
Also, pet peeve of mine: choosing the right dialogue options to get laid. A female wouldn't be attracted as much to what you say as what you do and what you are. In a realistic situation, if you're trying to decide on what the right answer is, you'd probably have no chance anyway. Maybe just leave the romance thing out? Of course you can get "laid" with the right answers in real life^^ And omg its still a game you can not be as real as possible. If I just hear they never get animals right.... You can also do that with all the wrong answers if you are the right type of dude, and all the right answers won't help you if you aren't. But that's beyond the scope of this forum so I'm not debating this here. Just stating that the romance thing in RPG games ends up being a little juvenile most of the time. Baldurs Gate did again a fine job. This is not Bioware.... Why not trust them a little bit instead of trying to tell them what "tropes" (what terrible fad at the moment) they should avoid. -
Stretch Goals
Darji replied to NateOwns's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
By PC do you mean windows? Yes. Porting it to mac or linux will cost money they rather could invest in more content. Later when the game is finished and good they can port it. -
Tropes that could be avoided
Darji replied to Margaretha's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
Also, pet peeve of mine: choosing the right dialogue options to get laid. A female wouldn't be attracted as much to what you say as what you do and what you are. In a realistic situation, if you're trying to decide on what the right answer is, you'd probably have no chance anyway. Maybe just leave the romance thing out? Of course you can get "laid" with the right answers in real life^^ And omg its still a game you can not be as real as possible. If I just hear they never get animals right.... -
Stretch Goals
Darji replied to NateOwns's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
The concern is never memory, it's money. Voice acting costs a lot, a LOT of money, you wouldn't suspect it when you just play since it doesn't seem such a big deal. And with a budget of 1.1mil, or even if they hit 2 or 3 mil, VA would take up a huge proportion of the budget. Voice acting also definitely kills word count and the freedom to edit the writing. Because you have to arrange voice actors, some of them busy well known people, and rent recording studios, etc, most of the time it has to happen when they can, not when they want, and then you end up having lines 'locked down' so you can't edit them later. So if you want voice acting that's of course a legitimate opinion. But you have to keep in mind there is a heavy price for it, and it is definitely not so simple. Of course. Only use voice acting in the important story parts. Again do it like Baldurs Gate maybe a bit more and its totally fine. -
Stretch Goals
Darji replied to NateOwns's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
No extra OS. Let them fully concentrate on the PC. As for stretch goals. More content. More locations, more party members (alternatives), more equipment and so on, Also more or better voice acting. I am really to old for reading hours and hours of text without any voice acting^^ Oh yeah and of course a tool set and steam workshop support. -
Tropes that could be avoided
Darji replied to Margaretha's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
Seriously can we please keep this whole tropes thing out of this game. I really can not stand it anymore. Sexism, rape culture and so on. People its a form of media and every media has this sort of thing. And not only for men but also woman. For example: Woman love handsome or strong and mysterious elf characters while men like the sexy female thief or character? why not give them both? And yeah if you want your tank to run around almost naked than let them do it but let them also take the consequences for example he/she can move very swift and fast but one or two hits will kill the character. Also it would be no real rpg without options for romance or sexy characters. Besides Baldurs Gate did a very good job here. So did Neverwinter Nights 2. Also do not restrict the creators and writers like that. Yeah if it were a Bioware game you should be worried but this is not Bioware, or EA. This is Obsidian the guys who actually know how to write characters and stories.