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I had never played sp until today (just to verify that I got the same bugs), the coop camera is what I started with and it's awful. Autoturn locked-zoom chaingang horrible horrible. SP isn't quite as bad and zooming in/out is annoying but not nearly as terrible as coop.

Don't know why I'm bothering to update since no replies in the first place - but the same issues persist in single player. The huge framerate drop happened again in legion chapterhouse, and I couldn't save. It only seems to happen in the mansions as I just finished some cave just fine. I guess I can't play sp or mp, awesome.

Sure it is, that's why the couple hours I played coop with the friend I bought it for had 2 CTDs, 5 memory leaks (I'm assuming that's what the cinematic fps drop and hold is) and 2 totally unknown graphics glitches, causing me to have to completely exit game and restart every single time. Got to the point where I just say 'fps again' and he'd guide us to a save spot. http://forums.obsidian.net/index.php?showtopic=58873

I'd seriously pay for a DLC just to remove the camera system in favor of a constant 30-45 degree overhead.

I guess I am used to it by now with AP etc but yet another Obsidian game that could have been genre-defining held back by bugs and one or two fatal flaws. It just really really bothers me how gorgeous it is and how fun it is to play and yet the camera system is easily the worst I have ever seen and the UI is awful as well. Any patches on the horizon? Haven't seen squat from Obsidian on this forum so I'm guessing not. If this game was patched to not have such a horrible camera system and just slightly better UI it could have been serious competition for all the diabloesques (including d3). As it is it's just such a damn shame yet another game gets the Obsidian 'awesome potential but we'll just phone it in on a couple gamebreaking things and never speak of it again' treatment.

I see stuff about generic issues but there are 2 that I've experienced as a host and not sure about sp, bought 2 copies of this and been playing coop [steam version]: 1) At some random trigger point I get a ghost of everything. It's almost like it's receiving client update as well as sending them. When I'm moving camera etc it works fine but when I stand still I see 2 outlines of everything. It's happened twice, no obvious trigger. However, when I exited to menu the 2nd time the menu was jittering too so I'm not sure about that theory. 2) Huge framerate drop after cinematics, usually inside. I'm not sure what it is but it's completely unrecoverable. My machine is a beast with crossfired ATIs and i7 etc and I checked gpu temps both under 50 so it's not overheating or anything. Help with either is greatly appreciated, I have already had to restart the game 5x and we just barely got through the first part of the game - I've never actually played sp either but if this happens there too then I probably just wasted both our times I have tried the usual graphic tweaking (ingame settings, check drivers, check catalyst settings, ai off etc etc) to no avail - autodetect put everything on ultra high too.