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Edit: As far as a losing battle goes that was no more than to let him know he better get used to opposition to his ideas because they are that of a minority group.(at least here in the US.)
I have no problem being in the minority on this. I have a long tradition to look back on. Church: The world is flat! Dissenters: We doubt it. Church: Galileo is a heretic! Galileo: I think I'm a pretty good scientist. Church: The world is less than ten thousand years old! Science: Then what the hell were these dinosaurs walking around on? Church: Slavery is God's way of allowing us to bring light and religion to heathens. Slaves: We disagree. Church: I think we'll call it, 'The Inquisition.' Heretics: Cake or death? Cake.
lmao!!!!!!!!!! Being a philosophical minority in the year 2004 here is somewhat a compliment IMO. lol.
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rofl!!!!!! The Daily show is the best show on TV ever IMO.
That crossfire vid is GREAT! LOL!
Here it is for anyone who wants to see it:
http://junk.haughey.com/Crossfire-John_Stewart.wmv
Jon Stewart is just another Bush-hating moron. The only difference between him and any other Bush-hating moron is that he hosts a show that isn't funny.lol. And your just another Bush supporting *cough* person, as well.. The difference is Jon Stewart is funny and has a show
You can't attack his credibility, because he's just a comedian, yet he'll go on to someone else's show and attack theirs. I wish that news networks would hire some hosts who don't waste time pretending to be civil and who will slap morons like Jon Stewart back into their place. The ones we have now basically just sit there with their phony smiles pasted on while some jackass guest gets away with saying whatever he wants.loll.. Awww boo hoo you cant attack his credibility.
But ya news networks should hire people who just shoot anyone who voices their opinion if they dont like it
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Just a point, in case old Product of the Cosmos cares: Those using a black background cannot read your tiny blue letters.
Wierd. I can read them just fine with a black backround.. I'll try to make my text the same size to be courtious to those without 20/20 or better vision..
If you believe your words to be so precious they must be distinguished from the words of others by special size and color, you might as well use a size and color that others can actually read.Or not. I don't mind just hitting "page down" every time I come to one of your posts if you don't mind it.
I like the color more. Does that disturb you that noone else does the same thing or something?? Why are you sending me anger for using a color on my text?
I didn't make them a different size on purpose. I don't know whats doing that. But no matter what colored text is made small on these forums for some reason...
If my preferences distinguish me from other people, then so be it. Because they are my preferences...
As for your assumptions about why I use them, lol... They show me that I don't have validity to really care that you scroll over my posts as you seem to have some sort of distorted perception on me based on a color of text I use. lol. If you stay consistant you would have just as ridiculous assumptions about my comments, in which I wouldn't care for anyway. If you would not stay consistant maybe you should work on being more polite, because you came off like an **** when saying such IMO.
I still can't read the tiny blue-lettered posts, and thought I should mention it to the poster.You mentioned it in the first quote in this post, you started rambling on offensively after it. I would have been more positive to you if you stuck to sayin you couldn't read it...
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taks i think I found the reason why quotes werent working.
If you have more then a certain number of quote boxes they dont work.. its like 5 or something.. I'll test it.
testtesttesttesttesttesttesttesttestLMAO! nvm. Worked though when I cut my post in half.
And which countries were bribed by Saddam Hussein to not go to war against him!? And prove it.I think he just meant they had financial interests in Iraq's commodities staying in Saddams control.. Hardly bribes. lol. More like interests in their own investments, being put above morality etc. We all no America never does THAT :ph34r: lol
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Mostly, I've not responded to this discussion because I think folks who've followed their candidate throughout the campaign only to see him lose deserve a chance to vent their frustration.
Did ANYONE in this thread like Kerry?!
Now, I'm going to address the general idea of conspiracies... let it go. Unless you have some real, substantial, and substantiated proof, you don't have a point.Let it go? With that state of mind nothing will be found to begin with.
2000 election
9-11
Both have enough evidence to indict this administration. And this is based off CITIZENS investigations, not people who have resources like the FBI.
Real conspiracies are undoubtedly hidden in the midst of theories that only serve to muddy the waters.I agree many theories are disinformation to make real conspiracies less heard. But that doesn't make discussing possibilities bad, or inefficient.
These conspiracy theories kill Democrats. Democrats have left mainstream America to join in the orgiastic glut of fringe movements.Democrats? I think your view on this rise, is the fact that the Bush admin are so corrupted the opposition has become aware of this. Yes it's slightly overblown, but many have a lot of merit. And these voices are barely heard in America.
A lot of Christians are rational human beings. A lot aren't. Same could be said for atheists, but the thing about atheists is, by their very nature they don't have that one core focal point for their rabid, bat**** insanity.lmfao!!!!!!!
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Actually, if you read the original AP article (what's that? cnn edited out what they didn't like from the AP article? no! heaven forbid!), you will find that that glitch occured on ONE machine in ONE county. What's really interesting, is that only that ONE county in the entire state used that type of machine, which the AP article describes as "older". So, ONE older machine, the likes of which are found in no other county in Ohio, glitched and gave Bush extra votes, but not enough extra votes to change the election result. There goes your "multiply that 'error' by all the precincts of ohio" theory. Further, if you read more carefully, you will find that it screwed up the votes for county commisioner, not just for Bush, so there goes any kooky "Bush bought off the voting machine companies" theory which you may be expounding upon.
Uhhh dega... It just says that one county had a problem.. Not that no other county had a problem. As they wouldn't know yet would they!? And if you use your noggin there, if someone is actually pulling this off, they obviously have experience in fraud(Take Enron or Halliburton or Aurther Anderson for example), and they know how to cover their tracks, and give each scenario some attention in their act.
You can't think in 'this is not possible' mode when your trying to deem if it's possible(LOL). It just doesnt work. Use your head, and think it through, and you will find that people who could plan something like this would have backdoor scenarios... To make their hardcore followers who will bend their reality to fit their opinion, not think it was a scam even if it obviously was(like the 2000 election for example).
If it was me I would make the code give Kerry a bunch of votes in an irrelevant state/province like Washington DC or Oregon. To create a counter arguement it was just 'chance' that Bush gained from the beta software. LOL. I know how these people think because I am related to them...
Or do you think they are common theives you see on worlds dumbest criminals giving their ID to someone before they steal beer or something. lol.
I live in a small hick town and work in a very large city and guess what I see more bigoted actions and views in the city of Chicago than I have ever seen in any small town. Your words only show typical big city elitism.Cites= More anonimity, racial tension, and flat out uncaring people, more crime, drugs and environmental concerns.
lol. Well you see more of just about everything in a place where there is more people..
Edit: Sorry if it is starting to get a little heated Phosphor but some of these guys are real idiots.lol.. Ya
*sorry phosphor for making this get heated*
*flame follows*
lmfao
I view anyone who puts faith before science, or blind belief before rational thought, or the Bible before the Consitution as less than intelligent myself.I couldnt agree more.
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and "Similar results were found with respect to Hussein
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uh, you missed something. clinton didn't get busted for having sex buddy. he got busted for lying under oath. a felony, mind you. good traits in a president, don't you think? lie under oath. really good example that i'm sure your enlightened euro-mind can respect, nay, admire.
This coming from someone who says the Bush admin criminal charges are nothing worth paying attention to. lol.
Anyway, the Bush admin are very VERY good at manipulating words. Have a sub-note in your mind when you see their disclosures speechs etc. They imply things but dont fully impose them, so people believe something and are decieved but it's technically not a lie if taken under certain contexts. But Clinton overall was under major scrutiny by the federal government investigations. The FBI at one time I read had many dozens of field agents working on that case alone. If the Bush admin had a large scale investigation on them by an agency like the FBI, the laundry list would be so long it would outspan the CIA's FOIA mind control documents which are more then 18,000 pages. lol... Heck, in my spare time I have put together indicting cases on the Bush admin.. lol.. Just using search engines not the resources FBI or CIA have...
oh boy, that really makes sense. at the very least, bush isn't killing his own people. of course, the rest of the world hates bush because he wasn't bribing them like saddam was. two for you, none for us. bummer.lol. What do you call 1,100+ deaths in Iraq? 9-11 incompetancies, pollution regulation getting lesser under Bush(uhh pollution causes cancer ya know taks), and whatever else.
Ya, Americans are dying under Bush's decisions for sure.
It's all an argument about how valid they are.
Like..... Pollution? uhh, some say its good for the economy. lol
9-11? Ya he got the message planes were going to be used as bombs(and had his staff lie about it and hide it), but ya I guess he shouldnt have gave it some notice, or inform his terrorism czar about it.... lol.. But no his terrorism czar was "Out of the loop!" lmfao!!! Thats mismanagement and uhh, when ur the leader of the USA during 2001, when 9-11 comes around people die because of your mismanagement.
Iraq? I guess some people think its good to get more in debt attack a threatless country and have to occupy it in bloody battles for years.. In the middle of a war on a completely different group, not oil-having dictators across the wor... err, middle east(Dictators in other nations dont bother Bush very much for some reason)...
What about WW2? Americans were being killed with Bush-sold supplies by Nazis too.
How about the first Bush? Americans died under him a lot too. Under his stints at heading the CIA, Vice President, and President, along with his various roles.
Oh, and all these Americans dying, how about just PEOPLE, in this regard the Bush's have contributed to somewhere near 5-20 million people death's or more I'd estimate off a quick guess based on the last 50 years of family business by the Bush's..
And as for the Bush lies comment.. If you havent seen any by now, it's probably not worth the time to dig many up. But if your interested, study the 9-11 reports etc.. And see how many lies you can get out of them. lol.
I've given you a lot to work on with Bush corruption. You always say 'nuthin to see here folks', or 'who cares if they were busted for fraud that doesnt prove anything'. lol. Or 'who cares they are tied to corporate scandals up the yinyang, its politics'. O_O or 'those nuclear reactors Rumsfelds former company sold to North Korea aren't significant at all' or 'those nuke detonators Halliburton while Cheney was CEO sold to Libya had double uses'.
Or 'that criminal investigation Bush stopped that was happening on Cheney isn't significant' or 'George H Bush still recieving CIA breifings and being part of a weapons arms dealing group that sells weapons, and weapons companies to Middle Eastern foriegn nations isn't implicating'. or........ how long should I go on? lol.. We've debated this subject quite a bit here taks(sometimes I get you mixed with JN, so sorry if those are a mix between you and JN, lol your like collective thinkers ).... :ph34r: 
here is a duplicate of the thread I posted about Bush.
And you come up with the same general jist everytime, as do I.
I say 'look at this information'
You and/or JN say 'rawrawraw stupid copy pasting conrpiracy theorist' .. 'nuthing to see here folks' lol.....
I say 'sheep are dumb'
You/JN attack me more and someone like dega reports the thread and its over...
LMAO! Good times.
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Everyone is happy to have america as a friend if they need something or have something to gain, but as soon as America looks for help and there is nothing to be gained our so called friends turn their backs on us.
Just like America helped us dueing both world wars 1 and 2 before their own interests were threatened.
haha, right.
Uhh more like until theiur own interests in profiting off Nazi germany were met
Thats how Grandpa Shrub Prescott Bush made his fortune. Selling Nazis supplies...
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my responses in blue
PoTC's quotes in bold... quote thing didn't want to work, not sure why.
Bush got roughly 25% of the USA peoples vote. The main section of his voters are blinded by a 2 party system.
uh, 30%, actually. 200 million eligible voters or so. under 18 can't vote...
taks, There is something called efficiency.. And when I write I use it sometimes for managing time, and so people don't read much if any more then they have to, to 'get the jist'. And so if I have something to get to, I can get to it quicker.
If I must walk you through I will do so I guess...
20% of raw America voted on Bush. 30% of eligible voters voted for Bush. I gave it 25% and said roughly. I grant you access to understand(lmao).
The Bush admin has used fear for their advantage, the more fearful a person in the USA is, the more likely their vote goes for Bush.
? afraid of what? oppressive taxes, tomb to womb welfare state (thanks di) endless catering to the smallest of minorities, public education??? yeah, i'm afraid of those things... mostly because THEY DON'T WORK!
Terrorists. lol.. Where have you been
Same with religion. The more religious someoen is here, the bigger chance they support Bush. Just like most dictators-evil kings etcetc in the past, Bush is using the religion card to gain sheep to follow him.
i'm an atheist.
uhhhh.. And your not 290+ million people are you.. lmfao.
Not to mention Kerry was not a good candidate, or at least didnt do **** of a job making himself out to be one until the debates. That hurt him alot.
aha! a statement i can agree with. kerry could NEVER have made himself into a good candidate.
uhh, yep. lol
Then we have the possibility that Bush didn't even get the majority of the vote or the needed electoral college votes. Die Bold CEO, the largest electronic voting system used on election day, has been noted to support Bush in every way attending high $ plate party fund raisers at Bushs 'ranch' bunker, and they have no paper trails!
good god, it's a conspiracy i tell you! wait a minute... still banging the same drum are we? get over yourself. you aren't even original. i can find better conspiracies on the web... oh wait, that's where you get this from, isn't it?
lol. I was discussing the topic at hand with the facts I know. Is that threatening you somehow? lol
Republican Bush supporter makes the voting machines with no paper trails.
you're right, over 100 million votes to cast and dozens of positions to vote for (as well as other measures)... we should still be hand counting them. good call there. wake up to the digital age buddy. the very same technology that provides this portal will be increasingly prevalent in our lives. it is unavoidable in a society this complex and this large.
It should have a paper trail. No paper trail=no records, no records=its all up to the software(BETA SOFTWARE WAS USED LMFAO! probably the fall back if they got caught
).Republican in Ohio(the key state which won the election) sets Die Bold as one of the electronic voting machines used in Ohio.
gasp! oh my, we're doooooomed. evidence please... evidence.
uhh, Im not proposing a federal court case here taks. Not conclusive at all, just food for thought.
Republican wins the election.
uh, yeah. opponent not good remember...
Yeah, I never said the election was a scam for sure. But it does seem to line up to some bigger probailities.
Republicans stunning the nation with just about every vote they were watching went their way.
an increasingly conservative state... however, most conservatives aren't. they just run under that moniker.
lol
In my state, Oregon, where assisted suicide, abortion, and medical marijuana is legal,turned down gay marriage as legitimate?!?! This reeks of foul play IMO.
ut oh, who did poopies?
four completely unrelated concepts, btw. not really all that amazing. homosexuality is one of the few remaining "fears" in our society. people just don't like it. sorry to those that are gay, but them's the facts. is it right? probably not, but i don't really care. IMO, nobody has the right to marry. it's not in the constitution. the fed should get out of the biz...
I agree get out of the biz.. lol.
But no they are not 4 completely different subjects in the way I'm talking. Those are very liberal non-evangelical points of view. Poll the people who voted to ban gay marriage and see how many vote yes on those things, I'd giveit about 4% of them would vote to legalize ANY of those topics.
So yes they do tie together.
Im just giving my point of view, and that outcome really shocked me about Oregon. Either I majorly misjudge my pupils here in Oregon or there was a fraud. I'd give it maybe a 70/30 chance, 70 being my misjudgement here in Oregon as die bold wasnt as big here, and this is a liberal state. But its still a lingering question for me.
Many have called me crazy or a conspiracy theorist for bringing that point up, but that just doesn't seem quite right to me.....
nothing seems "quite right" to you and quite frankly, it's pretty old. won't question your ridiculous ideas?
lol I get this energy from you taks:
you just spent time questioning them.... But to answer your question yes and no. By my philo, everything is meant to happen so anything that happens is right.. But when it comes to linear fasion. Yes, I am a perfectionist for one.
And as for conspiracy stuff, look into your planet and people. You will find many things if you find certain bits of elusive truth here and there. And once you have accumulated enough info first hand the chance of conspiracy for just about anything goes up as we are a very devious people at this time.
Ya... Well you see Americans(least the ones that vote, on either side) are largely (political) idiots.. lol. And they are easily influenced by the media. For many it's hard to see easily logical things because of their blinding idiocy provided by the media here.
all this nonsense and you're qualified to be judging logic??? how many times do i have to point out logical flaws in nearly every one of your arguments? the general population may be influenced by the media, but you take the cake for being influenced by every nutjob site claiming some new theory that's sure to prove "the conspiracy."
taks
lol. I debunked any flame or arguement you had pretty well right now... And you dont know me, my sources of thought, or my life. Pretending you do is kind of, well, you know, ignorant...
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No, it won't work.
Do you really want two "opposed" nuclear powered nations right next to each other? Both sides from a nation with a history of armed conflict?
Are you nuts?
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For once I agree with you..
Although I pondered it myself.. It would be cool for a while.. Until the rednecks decide to invade. lol.
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why on earth are you using blue text?
impossible to read if you've chosen the black background as i have... oh wait, do we even have a choice? i should check.
darque, if you haven't figured out PoTC by now...
taks
I'll take any taks reppellant I can get!
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A note to any non-American:
Please do not judge all of us here in America as our leadership seems. As many of us are very discontent in America about our leadership, and how much does THAT suck sometimes...
. Let me tell you. Here's how it is for a certain group of Americans:
Our leadership is ****ing NUTS!
We have a group of people(whom I do not call terrorists) called terrorists by our own government wanting revenge on our crazy ruthless piece of **** hierarchy, by targeting our financial infrastructure(with us, the citizens as 'collateral damage') trying to bleed our nation as they did Russia quite successfully. In which they are trying to kill me but I can see their point of view more then I can see my own leaderships point of view, both being rather siding with death suffering and destruction, which I do not support.
Get called a "bitchass American" by some foreigners
who are just as discontent with my countries leadership as I am, but took the same hate route that continues the dysfunction in America.
We are called 'unpatriotic' or "anti-American" from the sheepish idiot Americans, in which we get called the energy they are by foriegners at times.
We are brutalized by police here when we want to voice our discontent in our country!
We are moral so not many of this type would be incredibly rich in America, as backstabbers, polluters, and criminals advance to the top more often then not here.
We watch our children grow up in some crappy school in a molded synthetic somewhat insane society.
We break our backs working living paycheck to paycheck supporting a family dealing with life, growing ourselves, and decyphering the bull**** so it doesn't harm us or our good family here on planet Earth. We are the backbone of this country that black slavery once was.
And we are the people that will change this country, and in effect change this world when the time comes...
So think about the diversity in America before you generalize or like, jump some American walking down the street of your country at 2:30am. lol.
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why on earth are you using blue text?
I like it better. Why else? lol
Plus it helps define my text from quotes etc..
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uhh well nartwak you do put yourself in the same catagory of many Americans in foreign peoples minds when you attack someone like that... You have an afinity for put downs like that.
For example I asked in the question to the devs thread if kotorII being their first project made a difference in the quality of the game.. And you blatantly attacked me... Break the trend I'd say...
Although I agree that dichotomy isn't a great method of operation.
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Funny thing about this graph and election... Bush voters normally lived in hick small towns, and Kerry voters normally lived in large Cities.
Normally:
Cities=more conversation and more free knowledge.
Hick towns=more bigoted views and low IQ's. lol...
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"We don't think your idiots because you don't think or act like us, but because you want someone like Bush to be your president. A man that is more hated around the world than Saddam Hussein himself."
lol The world we live in....
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World War III, I mean.
[John Kerry has officially conceded].
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Not to mention, America is now headed directly back to the social conservatism of the 50's. Complete Republican control bought with promises of Christian moral values (really! It was the #1 concern of Bush-voters!*). The potential impact on the supreme court alone could be [will be] devastating, but with no-one to stop them they will pretty much be doing whatever they want.
*and because of this, even the Dems still in office are going to start turning socially conservative in order to survive. Here, I thought that ruining the country's reputation and economy were important things to consider, when all that really matters is whether or not gay people can get married. Silly me.
Good times, good times.
Civil war in USA would need to happen B4 WW3 broke out IMO... Hmm check this out
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Have you been paying attention? All Boston has been saying is how they are the Chosen Ones tm., how much better they are they everyone, how the Yankees suck and wer elucky to win the Division
lol. Well no I wasn't really paying attention at that point. Are you talking about Boston fans? Or the players?
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I saw footage of some of the rioting.
What's with people (not just in Boston, but most everywhere) rioting and burning cars after a sports championship? Are we, as a human race, really this pathetic?
Funny thing is the Red Sox haven't really won anything yet. If the Cards sweep them in the WS, then the curse is still alive and all that rioting just makes them look like even bigger asshats.
Yeah, it was stupid but cops shouldn't be shooting any type of guns at unarmed people. That is what we have tazors for.
Well if those people in the crowd didnt throw bottles at the mounted police he wouldnt have turned around and fired into the crowd. Who ever threw the bottle at the officer is clearly responsible for her death.
Looks like the person who was killed(A female college student in Journalism) was doing nothing, and witnesses say nothing was being done in her area. She got hit in the eye by a pepperball projectile(the same one shot at Pro Kerry/Anti-Bush people in Oregon recently)
Witnesses say officers overreacted to the situation.Several people who were near the area where Snelgrove was shot said the crowd seemed under control when at least one officer began firing the pepper-spray balls into the crowd.
Doug Conroy, 33, of Portland, Maine, said he and several other people had climbed the rafters of Fenway's famed Green Monster when police began to order them back down. He said he saw an officer in riot gear shoot something into the crowd below him.
He said he heard a woman scream, then heard sobbing. "A lot of people then looked over and saw her lying awkwardly on the sidewalk and blood coming out of her nose. She wasn't moving and we were just hoping she was just unconscious," Conroy told The Associated Press.....
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At our current rate, is humanity just on the way to destruction?
At our current rate IMO we are destroying a lot, but not approaching total destruction quite yet. If that indeed is what were meant for.
Soon(next 5-20 years) will have to be some of the biggest changes in our societal structure for many centuries, or destruction may be our end. If the Truth about some things comes out. There is no question a revolution will occur IMO. I'm just hopin the truth comes out.. lol. Because at heart IMO humans are decent people and don't deserve to be weeded out by natural selection through such a hasty way.
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Christians have and do change so much... lol. Many think their religion is a peaceful and forgiving one. It may be now.. But not throughout much of history. lol.
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I didn't see a source for all the passenger claims
sources:
Legacy.com Remembering America
It is much more likely to believe the data here is fabricated than to think anything else. The simpler conspiracy is the more likely one.Are you implying you have no desire to look into something like this further? A lot of the information about 9-11 that's out is due to families of the dead of 9-11 doing research because they care. lol. Seems like most people don't even care what happened 9-11, even if it will kill them in a couple years.. Amazing.. lol.
However, the idea that what would have to be several hundred thousand people are hiding something like you say is completely and totally preposterous.How am I saying several hundreds of thousands of people are hiding this?
Break down how you came to that number, as it is exagerated IMO.
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"Have you been paying attention? All Boston has been saying is how they are the Chosen Ones tm., how much better they are they everyone, how the Yankees suck and wer elucky to win the Division (how a team an be considered lucky after being the best in their division after 162 games is just ludicrous), how they were guaranteed to win easily. Sorry, they are the epitome of Arrogance."
Where was this? lol. Pedro Martinez called the Yankees his daddy. lol.
"I don't know anyone else has heard this but in the afterward celebration a woman was killed by police with a rubber bullet."
Dayum..,.
Paying for a second term agenda
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Well it IS in our constitution to appeal paying taxes if you majorly dissagree with their use. So maybe no, they shouldn't "shut the **** up" and move to another "goddamn country", maybe they should just exercise the rights in their own country...
Your rant reminds me of someone like Saddam G-pa. Is that the kind of country you would like to live in? One where if someone voices discontent they should shut the **** up and move away? lol.. In that case nothing would ever happen for the better. Things would always stay the same, maybe you had a bad day at work, but sheesh, you sure were angry during that post..
As soon as I feel the people in this country, and the country itself has no hope for salvation other then punishment for their ignorance(in the form of major destruction and death, pain, etc), I will "shut the **** up and move to a better country". As there are plenty of countries better then America when it comes to just plain ol well being IMO.
But until then I will voice my opinion, and try to change things for the better. And weather the angry pissy rants of people saying shut the **** up and move to a different country. As your definetly not the first or last person to say that...