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Zayne is far from Neutral, he's more on a turn for the Dark Side, really how is wanting all the Masters dead and have them begging for you to spare them by confessing Neutral a Neutral Jedi would have simply cut there losses ond moved on. What I want to know is where does a crappy padawan think he's gonna get the power to kill 5 Jedi Masters? Revan and Malak will make an apperance in Flashpoint The next arc, and The Exile is a woman, New Essential Guide to Droids says so.

Revan isn't his own fanboy while Kreia is his first and primary teacher. A lot of people in Kotor seem to know enough about Revan to know his power, and the "comparison" was made some 4 years after kotor 1. So, within the story there is no definitive evidence that Kreia didn't know how powerful Revan was: she goes as far as describing him as the heart of the force after all (not literal), which gives you a good idea of how highly she rated him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, she was calling the Revan she knew as the heart of the force, The question from the Exile "What was Revan like as a STUDENT" "Revan was power, Looking at him was like looking into the heart of the force." - Kreia She is tlaking about her Padawan NOT the 20 something year old man who became 3 times as powerful as the version she last saw which she admits was at the beginning of the Mando War. There is definitive evidence and here it is: She hadn't seen him in 13 years. What other characters aside from Malak and Bastila about Revans power is here say. What your claiming goes agaisnt logic, there is no way if I had a conversation with you 13 years from now you'd be the same person, with the same intelligence level, the same physical body type, the same views. You'd most likely be a completely different person who has changed with the years. And before you even try to bring this up, she couldn't sense him either other wise she wouldn't have made the comment "Why didn't you follow Revan" The Exile "Why? Because I DID NOT KNOW WHERE HE HAD GONE" - Kreia. Which also leads me to believe that Revans bond with Kreia wasn't even that strong and if anything the affection was very one sided. Revan constantly leaves Kreia to learn from other Masters while being her padawan. Revan doesn't think she is strong enough to help him, Revan simply uses Masters for their knowledge and moves on like he did with Kreia, with Zhar, with Kae, ect. He is the only Jedi I know of to have been whored out to so many teachers. And when he needed info on how to leave the Jedi he came back to the teacher who had the info. Kreia did not know Revan.

Darth Blivion are you following me Anyways, since you really didn't dispute anything I'll only talk about the Revan/Exile. We don't ahev to live with it because its coming from a single biased character, if it said in the narration or the load screen text that "The Exile had become Kreia's greatest student" Then we would have to accept it, and yet it comes from a old, half sane woman who is obsessed with finding a student to rival a perfect form of Revan in her mind that could do no wrong, The Exile is the case because she isn't held at the will of the force. That alone makes her better then anyother in her mind (she says she loves her and would kill the galaxy to perserve her, as highly as she speaks of Revan it NEVER goes that far)

*lesse... the basics behind blasters remain the same no matter the size... thus you could possibly deflect an at at blaster cannon with a lightsaber, the problem would be getting out of the way if you miss.* Accept for the you know...size. And that hardly discredits Luke. *but you forget he personally slew Masters Odan Urr AND vodo sisko baas. Two of the most powerful at a time when the Jedi Thrived. and besides, I think you'd do a heck of alot worse against a bunch of people when you were a 5000 year old spirit kept alive only by the sacrifice of an entire RACE.* No, HELL NO was Vodo or Odan "the most powerful" Vodo first off was beaten by a padawan, not only that but he was a damn retard too "Hm Kun is falling too the darkside we know the path he's going down lets NOT help him."Hm lets teach Kun a lesson about how violece is wrong by Kicking his ass! "I think I'll fight a Sith Lord with a stick...Yeah what a great and powerful master. Odan on the other hand was a decrpit old man whose dieing word were "Im old!" And please with Jedi like, Nomi Sunrider, Jolee Bindo, Vrook, Vandar, The Qel Droma line, Thron around these two were pathetic, As for Kun is ghost form is stronger then he ever was as a human. slightly insane but much stronger then his physical body. *to say that backstabbing was heavily shunned is not entirly true. GETTING CAUGHT backstabbing was shunned but doing it without getting caught but everyone knowing about it was encouraged.* No it wasn't, the Ancients were a society based on honor. Or else Naga Sadow would have taken out Ragnos long ago and would be ranked lower then a floating head in a jar. *sigh.. skywalker revan and exile fanbois what can you do.* How the hell am I a fanboy (jesus spell the word right) for stating facts?

Ok let me straighten a few things out here: 1. Luke is the strongest Jedi in Star Wars currently. Fact. examples of his power: He can move black holes, he can create fully functioning ships from the force, he has invented new instant killing force powers, When fighing the Vong in the last battle Jaina describes his movements as " It looked as if he was swinging 20 lightsabers at once, he was a malestorm of force energy so calm so focused he was unstopable. In his battle with Sidious in Dark Empire he was moving so fast that only blurs could be seen, He is descibed in the text of Dark Empire as being on "God Like" status, He refects a AT AT blaster bolt with his lightsaber. 2. Kreias comment about the Exile cannot be taken literally since we have no clue what greatest entails, what was she the greatest at? Its too vauge a comment to be taken seriously and she only has a Revan who she last saw 15 years ago to compare too. 3. Revans better then the Exile. 4. Exar Kun was a *****. He beat a weakened Luke with the help of Kyp Durron, then was killed forever by Padawans. 5. Markas Ragnos was a *****. He has done absolutly nothing aside from rule the Sith for a long time in a culture where backstabbing is heavily shunned on. Hell we've never even seen Markas Ragnos in physical form. 6. The power tier for Jedi should go Luke Yoda Anakin Jacen Kyp Mace Revan Obi Wan Exile