Do they use the word "subrace" or "ethnic group" when refering to diffrent groups Humans in PoE? What does it say in the Character Creator? The term "subrace" feels kind of... I don't know... Someone could say "the Humans in PoE are not like homo sapiens living on earth, they are just as made up as Orlans, yada yada yada..", but Humans in PoE are definitely analogous with real humans. That's why they call them "Humans". The same can be said for the "menfolk" of Elder Scrolls, that's why it gets (I know people hate this word, sorry) problematic when you start handing out bonuses in "athletics" to the race with dark complexion, voiced by african american voice actors. The more out of their way Bethesta went (they've definitely eased up on it in later games) to make Redguards "analogous" with african americans (the choice of voice actors, the accents), the more they invited this kind of criticism. The Redguards got a bit of makeover in Skyrim (new accents etc). For the better? I don't know honestly. Maybe? Elves and dwarves are usually implied to be of a different species, which is why, at least for me, that feels like it's on less shaky ground. Creating different subgroups of "elves" with specific inherent attributes feels pretty safe, while creating subgroups of "humans" can invoke some unsettling associations. It hits too close to home, basically. It's just easier to avoid it, just like most rpgs avoid having gender affecting your character's attributes. Hrmm.. I just derailed my own thread. Well done, off to bed!