Darth Blivion

I thought he was a really good character. His back story also makes him more interesting than that of a typical mob boss. His voice actor also delivers his personality very well.

You could engage in saber locks pretty frequently. And JA had better variety and moves in combat, it was an improvement in this most important of areas. Level design in JA was also more sensible, and allowed for less tidious levels. Outcast may have had the better narration but JA was the more enjoyable to play.

JKA. It's a lot easier to get into, and overall just more fun. Mutiplayer also gives it more replay value. The combat wasn't just button mashing, if you explored it you'd find that it rewarded you for being creative. As for outcast it was IMO, a lot more tedious than JA. JA improved on the combat system bigtime, as well as level design.

I don't see why Juhani has to be lesbian only because she a) Loved her female master b) had feelings for a female Revan. I think it's just a case of sisterly love and apprecation on the part of Juhani for a mother figure and a strong role model in Revan (being that she would be a fellow sister in the force). It doesn't have to extend into feelings with sexual connotations. As it is she only loves them, she isn't in love with them.

It's Sion you have to convince to release the force not Nihilus. Nevertheless, one-on-one Revan has zero chance of walking away alive. There are other ways he could beat Nihilus but we are assuming this is Revan vs Nihilus in a one on one fight. This fight is like Spiderman (Revan) vs Braniac (Or any omega level baddie) no matter how popular spidey is, you can't help but recognize that in a one-on-one scenario Braniac would have the clear edge. Nihilus 'hunger' has the potency to stip an entire planet of the force, what is a single conventional force sensitive going to do in a man to man fight? Nihilus wins if it's single combat any other scenario and Revan has a chance. If Revan was a wound in the force he might have been able to neutralize Nihilus' threat, but because he isn't.....

Nihilus, as long as Nihilus has his 'hunger' Revan doesn't stand a chance in a one on one scenario. Also to clarify; Revan has never been a wound in the force, he merely lost his memory hence the reason he couldn't use the force consciously on Taris. Because Revan is a conventional force sensitive, he'd have a great disadvantage against Nihilus in a one-on-one fight.

There goes your credibility Deathscepter. You counter by saying the Sith teachings are more important than the Sith arts, when it should be obvious that you can't practice the Sith arts without first learning the Sith teachings. Nihilus learnt and used the Sith teachings, even though he didn't care enough for them to spare the Sith or their legacy. I only write this because you countered my statement by sighting the importance of the teachings, but you forget Nihilus was taught and learnt the Sith arts already. It doesn't matter how you think a Sith Lord should regard the Sith teachings, what matters is that a Sith character can be whatever an author believes him/her to be. So again, since when did they develope a criteria for creating Sith Lord characters?

Yeah! Play nice. ) It was your silly argument in the first place, you should know how to defend that argument beyond: "he was not a Sith Lord because he didn't care about Sith teachings" arguments. So what?! He was still a damned Sith Lord and he still used the Sith arts.

Still arguing in circles, eh Architect? It's like you're reciting to us Kotor 2 info. We've played the game no need for reciting. The point (with the Exile) is that he can be lightside or neutral as well as being DS, so saying he is a Sith Lord is not appropriate for me in this case. Nihilus however is Darth Nihilus and only Darth Nihilus. The Exile is not definitively identified as a Sith Lord, while Nihilus is.

I didn't put the Exile on my list primarily because it isn't a given that he becomes Sith and even so, he did not get his title through the Sith but merely through his knowledge of the dark side and Sith arts. The Exile can be a Jedi just as much as he can be a Sith and even so Kreia mentions that he is not trully Sith in the DS ending. Nihilus on the other hand is Sith and only Sith. He identifies himself and is identified as a Sith Lord within the game. Secondly if Malak or any Sith became charitable and compassionate it doesn't disqualify them from being Sith. What would disqualify them is if they turned away from the dark side. A Sith Lord is essentialy a dark side practicioner, if he no longer follows the dark side then he isn't a Sith. Compassion and charity have nothing to do with it. Sith are human and can love and care for other people. Lastly, I nerver said that a Sith has to abandon the Sith teachings once he has attained the power he has sought after. I said there would be no need for a Sith Lord like Nihilus to follow the Sith teachings, becuase for him they would serve no purpose. The primary purpose of Sith teachings are to allow a Sith follower to unlock the might of the dark side of the force. For a guy like Nihilus who had unlocked the power to end life on a planetary level, the Sith teachings were no longer relevant. It's not just a matter of abandoning the Sith teachings once you've reached a certain power level, it's a matter of whether they are relevant to what you plan to do. For Nihilus, there was nothing more to learn from the Sith, once he attained the power to draw force energy from all living things.

So what you're saying in effect is that for you to classify character X as a Sith Lord, he must be a run-of-the-mill megalomaniac of sorts? Again, there is no set criteria that determines a Sith character. Some seek galactic supremacy, some merely seek knowledge, some even believe they are heroes, others like Nihilus believe the galaxy is only good for one thing at that's destruction. The point is: for Nihilus to be a unique Sith character, he has to have a distinctive charecteristic and as a result, the nature of his power is made different from other Sith. It comes down to artistic decisions not some general description of what a Sith is.

It's too bad that criteria has nothing to do with an author creating a Sith Lord character within his LA licensed story <sacarsm>. Nihilus IS a Sith Lord, and there is no set criteria for determining a Sith Lord's character.

At the end of the day their is no set criteria that determines what is or isn't a Sith Lord once the authors have already designated the title ('Sith Lord') to their characters. Nihilus became a Sith and died, a planet-eating Sith Lord.

Also, Architect if you understood the depth of a Sith's dedication to acquire power, you wouldn't be scratching your head over Nihilus' actions. Nihilus became so inhuman that he no longer cared for the teachings of the group he affiliated himself with. You have tried to argue that Nihilus is not a Sith Lord in Kotor 2, but you forget that nothing disqualifies him from the title 'Sith Lord', unless he denounces the title or turns from the dark side, 2 things Nihilus didn't do.

Umm... None of you have challenged my points. First of all, Nihilus is what he is because of the force, his 'hunger' is a manifestation of the dark side of the force, so he is subject to the will of the force. And yes, the Sith doctrine stresses freedom from all things even the will of the force, but that itself is almost impossible to achieve. No Sith has ever escaped the will of the force. The only person who ever had a chance from breaking away from the will of the force had to loose his connection to it. My point? The Sith are subject to the force, as long as they depend on it, as long as they are connected to it, they are subject to its will - it is the general concept in SW. the Sith beleive that through the dark side they can overcome the will of the force, but they forget or deny the simple overriding idea, that the force governs all beings, irrespective of their affiliations. I've not made a single assumption, I've used established ideas about the force in SW. The sith and even many Jedi are slaves to their power and ambition. A sith will destroy or try to destroy anything that blocks the road to his power. And Sith Lords when they delve deep into the dark side become corrupted by dark side energies, Palpatine's body weakened and aged quickly because of dark side energies and as a result began preparing clones to replace the body that was getting destroyed by dark side energies. Nihilus has to consume the life force of force sensitives otherwise the dark side energies within him will destroy his body. Palpatine delved deeper in the dark side so us to know the future and thereby avoid his demise, as a result of this heavy reliance on the dark side his body began to age/rot faster than normal. Nihilus predicament isn't anything unique among Sith Lords, what distinguishes Nihilus is how his specific problem (the 'hunger') has made him inhuman. Many Sith has had to make a great sacrifice to become powerful in the dark side. Palpatine and Sion (especially) sacrficed their bodies (among many things); Vader sacrificed friendship and love; Kreia sacrificed her ideals; Nihilus sacrificed his humanity.