Mesa Red

A couple of things briefly... Frist, once again Thank You for all your efforts. I cannot say that enough. Second, this is the first time I have downloaded a mod for any game and I was a bit worried about doing so. Completely unfounded fears! The mods I downloaded worked flawlessly. Wonderful job!! Lastly, if I could, your next pizza feast would be on me. Well, not on me exactly, but I would foot the bill. :D Mesa Red

Didn't mean to say she was 'uber'. I agree there isn't one in the game. Just that after completing her quest(s) she is probably the best one.

Two quick points if I may be permitted; I have served in three wars ( well two plus a 'police action') as both part of the military and as a civilian. During Nam I had two female officers (I was an NCO) to serve with. Both very capable in all military respects. I had no feelings of unease under their command. Unlike the male captain that eventually took over the company. During ODS (Bush SR war) I was a civilian manning an emergency operations center and both my supervisors were women. Again, very capable, confident and rarely wrong in their decision making, BUT were willing to listen, and in many cases accept and implement, other opinions. Lastly, I went into Iraq with the 4th infantry division where I supported and served with many female officers (as well as NCOs and males of both ranks). I saw no difference in the professionalism, courage, capabilities and dedication between the men and women wearing the uniform. Several of those women are now Coloniels and Generals in the US Army, and in my huimble opinion, the Army is just as good now as during any of the previous wars. Mesa Red Male NCO Male Civil Servant

***Possible Spoiler**** Nothing like Yavin IV merchant in the game as I could find. However, if you side with Greeda (forgive me if that spelling is wrong) on Nar Shaddaa and then get her the contacts with Datooine and Onderon (I think you have to complete the planets but I am not positive of that) she has probably the best stuff in the game and pays a fair amount for your things. Even if you are playing DS it is worth taking the LS hit to side with her for some of the items she sells. (My opinion only) As for selling things I found it pretty standard throughout the game. So much for competition. <_<

**tsk tsk*** (wags finger) Did you not read the reply to your first post?

***Spoiler**** I think this is addressed in the Spoilers forum, but here is the info you requested. :D Airspeeder Repair: Airspeeder Navigation Interface - Tienn Tubb's place Maneuvering Flaps - Pylon 3 (Docks area) Power Cell - Recieved as a reward from the Ithorian in the Flophouse (Docks Area)

I am not sure we could afford the game if a voice actor for male and female Revan/Exile were used, or any PC for that matter. It is tough to do a 100% voice over in any game and is very expensive for the dev/publisher. And, wouldn't there have to be multiple accents for each gender? Though I would like to see it done I think at this stage of gaming it is just cost prohibitive for both the dev and the consumer. As for the main topic of this thread, I really don't have a gender preference for either Revan or Exile. That should be left up to the player I believe.

Makes sense I suppose. Though I have to admit my family buys games during the year and rarely gives them as presents at Christmas. So, I am guessing that is the exception rather than the rule. As much as I was looking forward to KotOR2, I didn't purchase it until early March of this year. <shrug> Anyway, thanks for your information/thoughts.

If memory serves doesn't Mission tell the PC that most aliens speak basic but would rather speak their own language? It would then make sense to me that 'allies' would speak basic to the PC. Dunno, just a thought. That seems like it would also validate Sasha's language use since she would hear mostly Mandalorian during her tenur with them.

Having read the forums here and at the LA site I have heard numerous references to getting KotOR2 out for the Christmas shopping season. Now this may seem like a silly question and if so please feel free to skip to the next topic. However, since the game was released just before Christmas, how could the publisher be sure sales then would be higher than, say, a February release? I ask because it seems almost all of the ones that purchased KotOR2 also owned KotOR1. Would the time of release have stopped them from buying the sequeal? And this begs another question; By rushing the game to market and having it snatched up by KotOR1 owners who were then disappointed by the 'final' product, wouldn't this have ultimately hurt sales because of the bad publicity (for LA and OE) the game has generated? Just asking for opinions here. I am curious as to what others may think. Mesa Red

Allow me to add my thanks for your selfless efforts.

I am constantly amazed that folks read things they don't like to read. And then flame and whine about what they don't like to read when all they have to do is not read it. <ponder> It seems to me that most of the negative posts are titled so one can pretty much guess as to the content, no? But then again I have seem some negative replies posted in threads that would not have been anticipated in the title. However, if the first few lines are unsavory perhaps going to the next post or thread would be advisable, no? I suppose there is some good that could come from accepting whatever a business feels the customer deserves regardless of the price charged or paid for the product. It would certainly make life interesting. You paid for it, now just shut up and try to use it. That you can or cannot use the product is not our company's concern! And, anyway, how dare you expect more than what we think is best for you and our bank account!! Danged whiners anyway! Anti-whiners UNITE!!!! Mesa 'the anti-whiners whiner' Red

My top ten from two decades plus of RPGs... 10. The Longest Journey 9. Original Bard's Tale 8. Forgotten Realms Gold Box Series (yea, all of em) 7. Moria (not sure it would truly qualify. How many have heard of it?) 6. Icewind Dale II 5. Icewind Dale 4. KotOR 1 3. Planescape: Torment 2. Morrowind 1. Baldur's Gate series I actually expected KotOR II to knock either number 10 or 9 off the list. Sadly, it didn't. Mesa Red

As with many of the topics in this forum I can think of quite a bit to say in this thread. But I will try to be brief. Console v PC debating has gone on to the tune of the demise of PC games for many years. Perhaps it will happen, I really don't know for sure. There are advantages to both but, it seems unless you subscribe to something like XBox Live you will have difficulty getting a patch for KotOR2, whereas with the PC it is pretty much given it will be a download. Would this not apply to any game that requires a patch for a console game? The state of games today in both arenas seems to be get the beta2 version in the customer's hands and lets see what we need to fix in the next iteration of the game the customers will pay us for. My family owns two consoles and a PC and from what my kids tell me the console games can have nearly as many problems as the PC games. My problem is I think I can see both sides of the issue. Games for the consoles are fairly straight forward. Once the game is in, the system is dedicated to running that software and little to nothing else. A game designed for the PC does not have that luxury because there are an infinite number of system configurations a given user can have; most have applications running in the background; firewalls and AV software and some version of OS all of which can be mixed and matched to a great extent. Not a developer's paradise I should think. However, having said all of that, my position on the console v PC debat is simiply this; if developers stop making games for the PC I will stop playing games. Or, will continue to play only the games I own now from time to time. I cannot see myself supporting the console gaming industry because of the limitations I perceive. KotOR 2 is a good game that could have been great as has been stated many times throughout LA and OE forums. In this instance, both platform users were 'cheated', in my opinion. I hope this is a 'glitch' and will not become the 'norm'. Hopefully more companies will become like Blizzard and BioWare when it comes to the initial product and post release support. I guess we shall see. Mesa Red

I would like to see some new and old characters and definitely some larger areas to explore. But I would also like to see the inclusion of the NPC banter that went on in KotOR 1. For a small example when Carth chided Bastila about loosing her lightsaber in the crash on Telos. There were several precious exchanges between NPCs in the first KotOR and I missed them in KotOR 2. For me, at least, it help flesh out the NPCs and gave them a little deeper character than in TSL. I also agree with putting the deleted content from KotOR 2 into the, hopefully, finished KotOR 3 release.