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The problem is we don't live in happy land. People who write like this think that throwing down guns will end war and all that sh*t. But there will always be war. There will never be eternal peace as long as we exist. There will always be another Hitler, Bin Laden, or Aidid. That is why we need those guns to kill them and their followers. Then the world is returned to a temporary state of peace.

Shotguns are crap unless you're going house to house. This is, however, a formidable weapon which I have: Held, fired, dragged through mud, cleaned.... but NOT humped. (yet) " The standard armament of the Danish army, optical sight included. :cool: Luckily, not many Danes get to fired these at other living beings, unlike other armies. *cough* ^_^ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wouldn't even use a shotgun for house to house. I'd take an M4 to a shotgun any day when it comes to CQB. Nice M16 BTW.

Nice. But, as a Soldier once told me, you don't know anything about a weapon until you have held it, fired it, cleaned it, and humped it (this is military slang that means to carry something, for you wiseguys out there ). You can know all of a weapons specs, but it doesn't mean you know the weapon. There's my little tidbit of useful information

Venceras, pero no convenceras. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Conquering, but not to convince" eh?

Since you want an argument in response to this post, here it is: Uncle Sam has spoken :D

I can understand that you're out of arguments or just frustrated at my post because your obviously a passionate patriot.....but between my theory that the US is nothing but a bully and another terrorist and your view that the US is just trying to help everybody and its spreading democracy, believe me when I say the truth is somewhere in between.....there is no black and white in the world anymore, every major country in the world that has been part of the most important political and military events in recent history have blood on their hands, including the United States of America.... P.S. under what divison are you enlisted on, just out of curiosity.....? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Out of arguments? Ha, not on your life. Just getting tired of debating. That's the thing with debates; they don't get anywhere. In the end, both sides are still just as passionate about their cause as they were in the beginning. And I don't see how the U.S. is a terrorist. You know, seeing as how we have led numerous humanitarian efforts, not to mention the amount of effort we put in to the tsunami relief. Even american citizens were giving money out of their own pockets. And we're terrorists? In response to your p.s., I'm not part of a division as of yet. I have yet to even ship out to BCT. But I'm heading there this July. Then I can help fight for my country. Or in your translation: fight for big bad evil Bush and the imperialistic United States. <_<

You finished? All I heard in that whole rant was blah blah blah, I hate America, blah, blah, blah.

So if this theory is true (which it's not IMO), what came before space? Was it just an empty area? And what created that empty area? God created it, pure and simple. But that's just my belief.

If we could help all those countries, we would. We can't help everyone. The reason we didn't get involved in the Sudan was because we were afraid it would turn into another Somalia. Iraq was a threat, so we took it down. Now we are helping them rebuild into a democratic and peaceful nation. And I don't see many other countries willing to even give a rats ass about other countries, do you? It's funny, isn't it? When horrible things happen, everyone turns to the U.S. to take the initiative. But then afterwards we are criticized for it.

There were talks about going into Iraq and taking down Saddam, but most of countries in the coalition were against it because they feared it would lead to endless fighting.

Following the first gulf war there was a huge popular uprising and then the UN pulled the plug and went home which resulted in them all being tortured and killed and their families too. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, which is exactly why we should have finished it right there. If we had, Iraq would have been better off.

Spreading democracy - - only small minded American conservatives can buy that bullsh*t....you can't install true democracy with violence <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My God you are ignorant, you know that? What was the Revolutionary War? Violence was the only option to break off from British control, and last time I checked we are still a very democratic nation. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes violence was the only way for you to brake free.....but that violence errupted because you were left with no other option and you did what you had to do.....and I could hardly say that you had no other option about Iraq......and you took my quote out of the context....I didn't mean violence is never a solution for a democracy, I was referring only to the war in Iraq.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But how else would you expect Iraqis to gain democracy? Do you think they could just tell Saddam that they don't want to be under a dictatorship anymore? He would have had them slaughtered in an instant. And the people never had capabilities of mounting a rebellion because Saddam had them so tightly watched and controlled. I think that violence was the only way to get democracy in Iraq.

Spreading democracy - - only small minded American conservatives can buy that bullsh*t....you can't install true democracy with violence <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My God you are ignorant, you know that? What was the Revolutionary War? Violence was the only option to break off from British control, and last time I checked we are still a very democratic nation. It seems to me that you think democracy is just crapped out of a rainbow for all to enjoy. No consequences or sacrifices whatsoever.

I think a KOTOR trilogy would be enjoyable to watch.

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That's a tad condescending. The Iraqi issues are more about the power politics struggle of the formerly-dominant Sunni Muslims, versus the numerically superior Shi'ite Muslims, and the independantly-minded Kurds in the North. (Iraq is just another British colonial hangover of a country; there is no historical reason to group all these peoples together except for expediency. Think of the poor Mash Arabs.) The foreign insurgents are certainly a problem, but as soon as the Iraqi police are more in control, this should be manageable (like it is in Pakistan, Syria and Beirut ). Trivia question: what was the first democratic event for Saudi Arabia? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't mean to sound condescending, but it's true. These people are not used to having freedoms, and most importantly, a voice. And now that they have been given one, they have to adjust and learn to get used to it. It would be like living in a democracy all your life, and then suddenly being placed under a dictatorship. You were so used to having a voice, and now you are silenced. Wouldn't you have trouble adjusting? I sure as hell would. And I'm sorry you have such a lack of faith in the Iraqi security forces. These people want freedom, and despite a risk of getting killed, hundreds of Iraqis line up in front of recruiting offices to sign up to defend it. I think that shows how dedicated they are to fighting these insurgents and bringing peace to their country.

Sure sounded like it to me. And I think we can bring democracy to Iraq. The problem is that they are having trouble adjusting because they have been under a dictatorship for so long. They are not used to having the abilty to make their own decisions. Plus we have insurgents that are further hampering our efforts. They don't understand that if they stop, we will be out sooner. They want us out, but by causing instability in the region, they are only keeping us in there longer. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you can't force democracy on someone. it has to be a product of their own free will. do you really think iraq will turn into some shining example of freedom and democracy? that is just naive; recent polls suggest that the majority of the people prefer an islamic state like iran... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I can see where you are coming from, but the Iraqi's are happy that we are there. But the insurgent attacks have been an obstacle that is making some question the price of democracy. I know Soldiers who have been deployed to Iraq, and they told me that all they saw was a positive response by the Iraqi people. They were genuinely happy that we are there.The media however likes to cloud the truth of the operation in Iraq. They like to make it look like nothing good is happening in Iraq. They forget to mention that we have built schools to provide education for the children their, that we are restoring Iraq and making it a better place to live. You want to know why the media does not concentrate on the rebuilding of Iraq? Because the stories won't sell. It's all about the money. What would they rather post: A story about some Soldiers dying, or a story about the improvements being made in Iraq such as education? Of course they will go with the deaths because lets face it, death sells. The media only provides half the story about Iraq. Thus, they provide an image that makes many believe that nothing good is happening.

Sure sounded like it to me. And I think we can bring democracy to Iraq. The problem is that they are having trouble adjusting because they have been under a dictatorship for so long. They are not used to having the abilty to make their own decisions. Plus we have insurgents that are further hampering our efforts. They don't understand that if they stop, we will be out sooner. They want us out, but by causing instability in the region, they are only keeping us in there longer.

So if we're currently pumping oil out of Iraq, why are gas prices so high? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> because americans are in general d*cks who like to drive big ass cars and don't give a damn about the environment... " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ugh, insults aren't really helping to support your side. Give me a good reason why gas prices are at a record high right now. You accuse us of going in for oil. If that were the case, gas prices would be low as hell right now.

So if we're currently pumping oil out of Iraq, why are gas prices so high?

I don't think the world is a dump, it was a comparison between "heaven" and here; but if it's no worse than heaven, then why go there? Why does god need an army of faithful people? And why decide who gets sent to hell before they are born? How is that free choice? God knows all! Even the future, doesn't God? So God is deliberately damning people who have no chance. Not fair. Not merciful. Not good. Not a god I like. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hell if I know. Seriously. I don't know what God is thinking, otherwise I would be an all knowing person. But perhaps by sending the bad ones, it gives them a chance to change their ways. We all have control of whether or not we want to be good or evil. We have control over our actions. Maybe God sends the bad ones in a hope that they will choose to be good. Who knows. God works in mysterious ways.

We choose to come back or stay? That makes no sense (and has no correlation with any religious teaching I'm aware of, so I'm wondering what bizarre religion you think you are " ) If heaven is so great, why would anyone come back to this dump? So they might accidentally chose the wrong life and go to hell next time? And how can an all-powerful, all-knowing and all-loving God permit some people to have everlasting torture? God made them, God knew what they would be, how they would chose, and yet still, with all God's unlimited power, knowledge and merciful goodness, there they are, right now, suffereing the torments of the damned. I'll pass on that god, thanks. Bloody noisy and smelt of weird things. Oh, wait -- you mean before conception, not birth! That was okay, I guess. Not much happpening. I guess some might call it boring. I thought it was nice and serene, no chores to do, no ladders to climb or slides to fall down. Just a pleasant nothing, like warm zephyr on a balmy day. I remember reading somewhere that some scientists had weighed a body just prior and post mortem, and there was a difference in weight ... the soul has a physical manifestation! (I wonder what the mass of energy is? Like the elctro-chemical energy in the brain.) Do you know the brain is 60% fat? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't consider myself part of any religion. I used to be Christian, but now I am just a man that believes in God. I'm part of my own religion I guess. And why not come back here? Perhaps some choose to come back because they want to work on weaknesses that they have. So they set up a life that will challenge them in those areas. That's just a little idea that I came up with. You don't like it, fine. And why do you think that the world is a dump? You must have a bleak outlook to think that there is no beauty in this world. To answer your question on hell, God placed us on the Earth as a gift, so we could have a chance to experience something great. By placing us here, we live life at our own discretion. That is the freedom he gave us. Perhaps this is to weed out the faithful from the unfaithful; to see whether we are good or evil. Some make bad choices (murder, rape, etc), and as a punishment they are damned. Those who go to hell are responsible for it. It was their choice.

You and the rest of mankind. That's probably why so many things have been made up about this topic. I don't care much about this, I'll find out eventually anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :D

I just couldn't imagine everything just ending and going to into nothingness. I can't even comprehend what that would be like.

Yeah, I would. But that sucks that you can't do it.