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Poe2 Weapon Damage Formula ? We need more precision in UI

peddroelm
in Backer Beta Discussion

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Not enough penetration multiplier is  *0.25 instead of the displayed * 0.3 [rounding issue] .. 

 

But for the fallowing example I am at a loss as to the math used :

 

Devoted Axe Crit:

UI numbers 

 

17.8  Roll

33% might ; 70% crit [0.25 base + 0.2 axe + 0.25 devoted]; 15% fine 

 

total damage listed as 43.9 * 1.3 = 51 !!!

 

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17.8 * 1.33 * (1 + 0.15 + (0.25 + 0.2 + 0.25)) = 43.79   //  different from 43.9 . So maybe the shown 'roll' is already rounded.. Meaning proper tests will still need to remove weapon RNG for maximum precision .  (unless they provide more precision / less rounding in UI) 
 
Because what fallows is quite ridiculous
 
43.9 * 1.3 = 57.07  QUITE A WAY OFF FROM THE LISTED 51 !!!
 

If players cannot fallow the presented the numbers with math ..then the presented numbers are USELESS !!

 

43.9 * 1.25 = 54.875
(17.8 + 0.05) * 1.33 * (1 + 0.15 + (0.25 + 0.2 + 0.25)) * 1.25 = 54.89 !!

Edited by peddroelm

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    There’s a thread with some math in the bug forum but it’s old; I’m afraid I don’t have a link handy right now.

    Edited by AndreaColombo

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    >>but MIG is multiplicative in Deadfire (it was additive in PoE.)

    >>Overpenetration is also multiplicative

     

    treated as such in the calculations in the OP

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    Found the link; hope this helps.

     

    https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/94694-bug-not-getting-bonus-damage-from-high-armor-penetration/?do=findComment&comment=1954833

    "Time is not your enemy. Forever is."

    — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment

    "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers."

    — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears

    My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus

     

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    the step  math mentioned by the dev there [but not really explained -or maybe he did explained and I just don't get it  ]... ?!??! WHY ?!?!? 

     

    ?Why use simple math when you can make it complicated ?   

    Edited by peddroelm

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    https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/94991-poe2-weapon-damage-formula-we-need-more-precision-in-ui/
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