(Bug) Caltrop and rat swarm

[Decius]

Caltrops banished to defeat rat swarm instead shuffle it into location deck as though rat swarm's power had been triggered, even though no check to defeat occurred. Expected behavior is that rat swarm is defeated by the caltrops and not shuffled into the deck because it was defeated directly by a power and not by a check to defeat.

[Longshot11]

Caltrops banished to defeat rat swarm instead shuffle it into location deck as though rat swarm's power had been triggered, even though no check to defeat occurred. Expected behavior is that rat swarm is defeated by the caltrops and not shuffled into the deck because it was defeated directly by a power and not by a check to defeat.

Read the cards.

The Rat Swarm says something to the effect of "If you didn't beat the check to defeat with at least 4 ...". You said it yourself - when using the Caltrops, there is NO check to defeat, and therefore you DIDN"T beat it by at least 4.

[Decius]

If you evade, you don't beat the check to defeat by at least 4, either. Is the rat swarm defeated and shuffled back into the deck if it is evaded, or should the conditions of the evade (which might not be shuffled back into the deck, and normally count neither as defeated nor undefeated) be controlling?

[Aarik D]

Hey Decius,

 

You have to defeat the Rat Swarm by form of combat. If you use an item to defeat the rats, the will still shuffle back into the deck. 

 

Hope that helps! Thanks!