Valeros doesn't seem to benefit from this role. Whether I discard or bury an armor, the effect seems the same as prior to picking the role. I have yet to see any prompts to recharge armor, except for what the armor already allows for ("recharge to prevent 3 damage" etc).

Valeros doesn't seem to benefit from this role. Whether I discard or bury an armor, the effect seems the same as prior to picking the role. I have yet to see any prompts to recharge armor, except for what the armor already allows for ("recharge to prevent 3 damage" etc).

Currently, the only armor that discards for effect is Spiny Shield, for its Ranged 1d4 to a combat check. If you don't have the shield and you've taken this power for Val - you're shield out of luck.

Lol what a scam. It seemed like I would be able to recycle armor, since you know... The picture for armor mastery was a breastplate, and it is "armor"

Lol what a scam. It seemed like I would be able to recycle armor, since you know... The picture for armor mastery was a breastplate, and it is "armor"

No joke. But hey, take solace that at least you didn't take Meri's Magic Expert (use Charisma to succeed at Weapon or Armor recharge check, hahahha - can you think of any of those?) or Inspired Dexterity (an otherwise excellent power, that's currently bugged to banish your blessings...). Man, those Roles are more fun than a Russian roulette...

I took inspired dex. Blowing up blessings like a boss. I absolutely refuse to believe Val's armor recharging doesn't apply to armor. It must be bugged. Is this a thing in the physical game as well? Does it only apply to the occasional shield?

Edited June 2, 20169 yr by Srvannor

I took inspired dex. Blowing up blessings like a boss. I absolutely refuse to believe Val's armor recharging doesn't apply to armor. Is this a thing in the physical game as well? Does it only apply to the occasional shield?

It applies to all Armor-type cards but it does exactly what it says - it converts 'discard for effect' to 'recharge for effect' , and since most armors either reveal, bury, or already recharge for effect.... Yes, it's like that in the physical game, and it makes just as much sense.

 

EDIT: I don't expect Paizo to go back and change a couple of years old cards just to be useful (after all, it's not *bugged* - it works as intended, only the intent is useless), but maybe -if Obsidian have that freedom (they've changed a bunch of better-working cards already) - they could make this power work on 'bury for effect' too. You have my vote in support.

Edited June 2, 20169 yr by Longshot11

It works like in the real tabletop game. Not so Many of those armours that have discard ability...

Well there's a new armor in deck 3 that does that, and has something to do with a craft check or something? I forget the name off the top of my head - but that one has the discard trait. Unfortunately it's not one that can be recharged when resetting a hand. Maybe it's worth keeping a few of these on Val for that purpose. Blah. The other option for Val didn't seem very good. At least it's only 1 point for the armor mastery, the other sections of that role looked decent.

The armor I mentioned above is called Steel Ibis Lamellar. The last line on the armor reads "if proficient with light armors, bury this card to reduce all damage dealt to you by 5; you may succeed at a craft 9 check to recharge it instead."

 

I've found that when Valeros buries it, it gives you the option to recharge it without a roll. I assumed the other armors that bury for effect would follow suit, but maybe the steel armor is bugged? So confused lol.

Edited June 2, 20169 yr by Srvannor

The steel armor is bugged I think.

Bump. Would like to know dev's input on this. Is this just a terrible role to take, or should armor recharge as stated in the role?