[Bug - 508] Fighter's deflection raises up for no reason

[Tanred]

I noticed that Eder's deflection stat raises up by 5 points randomly. Unfortunately, I can't reproduce this bug consistently and I have no clue what could have caused this bug. He has the Defender Modal activated, but I am sure that I did not de-activate it or re-activate it ever since.
 
I am attaching the bugged savegame: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dmrll4fzon7ir8k/c6ecc6c753d1445690c17f0199a70052%208538475%20CilantLs.savegame?dl=0. Eder's deflection is 69 there while it should be 59. It raised itself twice - second time when I exited the game and then reloaded the savegame.

 

And last savegame before the bug occured: https://www.dropbox.com/s/47h61o0yt6vkdfd/c6ecc6c753d1445690c17f0199a70052%208453620%20Valewood.savegame?dl=0

 

Output log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/94paksb57dhnngn/output_log.txt?dl=0

Edited March 29, 2015 by Tanred

[Abtacha]

There is a bug that temporary buffs (in your case the +5 Deflection from Eders defender mode) become permanent upon saving and reloading.

You can also loose permanent buffs/abilities like the Woodelf racial bonus to ranged attacks, i suspect there's something messed up in how they are stored in savegames.

[sunburnedcrow]

I am getting this too, the buff from Defender doesn't disappear even when I deactivate. I am also getting the same issue with Kana's Int, it is 22 instead of (base 17 +1 from the turban).

[Tanred]

There is a bug that temporary buffs (in your case the +5 Deflection from Eders defender mode) become permanent upon saving and reloading.

You can also loose permanent buffs/abilities like the Woodelf racial bonus to ranged attacks, i suspect there's something messed up in how they are stored in savegames.

 

If it is the save / load bug then exiting from the game completely before loading any savegame could prevent this bug from happening (there were similiar issues like that back in beta). I'll try to test it.

Edited March 29, 2015 by Tanred

[Tanred]

 

There is a bug that temporary buffs (in your case the +5 Deflection from Eders defender mode) become permanent upon saving and reloading.

You can also loose permanent buffs/abilities like the Woodelf racial bonus to ranged attacks, i suspect there's something messed up in how they are stored in savegames.

 

If it is the save / load bug then exiting from the game completely before loading any savegame could prevent this bug from happening (there were similiar issues like that back in beta). I'll try to test it.

 

 

I ran few tests and exiting the game and reloading it did not help - the bug has still occurred. It is actually kinda weird because it seems that it is somewhat related to Gilded Vale location, at least in my gameplay.

 

Steps to reproduce the issue consistently:

 

1. Load this savegame: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wqar9uzg51mznc/c6ecc6c753d1445690c17f0199a70052%208660593%20MagransFork.savegame?dl=0

2. Notice Eder's deflection stat value.

3. Go with your party to Gilded Vale.

3. Save/Load

4. Notice Eder's deflection stat value has raised up.

 

But if you go to another location instead (I tested Black Meadow) and save/load there the bug does not happen. Or if you go to Gilded Vale and then to another location and save/load there is no bug either.

Edited March 29, 2015 by Tanred

[BreezeUADN]

Seems to be true, a save with a fresh party with temple of Eothas cleaned:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ezovatb0er76tl3/4269e3ed976040909c68bbb845014d48%208095070%20TempleofEothas.savegame?dl=0

Can save/load inside the temple (in both upper and lower level), but once I go outside to the village passive stats from skills/perks and stats from equipment start to accumulate

[BreezeUADN]

p.s. if you wanna check the save notice how his resolve and perception grow - that's from the helmet

[MasterPrudent]

Related: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/73188-amulet-of-health-permanently-raising-endurance/

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/73190-durance-gains-permenant-stat-increases-from-the-talisman-of-the-unconquerable/

[MasterPrudent]

Other people with the bug here: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/72492-bug-cipher-focus-gain-permanently-disabled-by-drinking-horn-of-moderation/

 

It might be fixed already according to one of the guys in the thread. Hopefully it can be made retroactive...

[Tanred]

I tested it further on another character (different gameplay) and again the save/load bug occurs only in Gilded Vale (outdoor area). I would recommend to never load a savegame while being there.

 

The bug might happen also in other areas (towns possibly?), I am not that far in my game to test it throughly.

Edited March 29, 2015 by Tanred

[noesc]

Lost part of Pale Elf elemental endurance after obraining stronghold. Now it is just freeze damage reduction... WTF

[Tanred]

Lost part of Pale Elf elemental endurance after obraining stronghold. Now it is just freeze damage reduction... WTF

 

I'll test the stronghold area once I get there.

[Aesymnetes]

In my case the problem/ bug seems to be even more serious.

For no apparent reason, my defenses of Edér at lvl 4 are D:112 F:113 R:91 W:99.

I suppose it could be some kind of stacking regarding the defender stance...

[AgentTBC]

Yeah, this is a bad one.  I've given up playing until patched what with this bug and the similar one with losing bonuses if you put on your armor incorrectly.