Planescape Torment: Can I Get the Bronze Sphere with a Save Editor?

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I am currently at the Clerk Ward - and have done the majority of quests available thus far. I knew well to both grab and keep the Bronze Sphere, from the game and a couple tips. I specifically avoided dropping it or moving it out of inventory, but I realized lately that it was absent from any of the party's inventories. I think it's possible that I lost it in a glitch, via a death or cutscene. E.g. I may have given it to Morte, who may have lost it during a certain cutscene (which I heard was possible later on).

 

Is it still there (I doubt it)? Is there a way to get it back? I attempted to use a save editor, but looking through the list of items I could hack into it, there is no "Bronze Sphere" or anything I would guess is related.

[samm]

Morte's inventory is dropped on the spot where he is abducted, if i remember correctly, so have a look there.

Regarding the main question however, I can't help you with the save editor, sorry.

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Thanks for the reply. :]

 

Unfortunately, I saved over the one file that was before that point, shortly before realizing the problem. I tried to keep a certain number of saves, and thought it was safe to overwrite after enough hours of gameplay. Bad move.

 

I did figure out some solution for this, and I'm gonna put it here in case anyone is curious or could use the info. I looked through some save editors, but only one worked, with no Bronze Sphere in the items list, and one of the other two didn't do items anyways. Then I looked up the item code, and learned the bare-bones basics of Hex ediiting through this page and its related site/links.

 

I had to download a hex editor from download.com (not the hex-editor named on the site), saved two different slots of the same point in the game and picked one to edit (could also have made a back up), and essentially replaced a clot charm ("CLOTCHRM") item code in The Nameless One's inventory (not quick slots) with the Bronze Sphere's ("BSPHERE") item code.

 

 

(In case the site's confusing or inconsistent or the link goes bad, this is how I dealt with it:)

Open the file from the hex editor. To get the save file, go to the saves' subfolder, which is in wherever Planescape Torment's folder is, enter the folder of the specific save you want to edit, and click/use the "TORMENT.GAM" file.

 

Make sure the file is in the hex format. The site states it should be ASCII (which I did).

One needs to find the first "Nameless" in the file's code to get to the PC's inventory and such, keep going down until you find the item code's name (e.g. Clot charm's is "CLOTCHRM"). If the item you're replacing is also in a quick slot, it should be listed twice, and you should change the second one (I think, not positive, but this is what I did). Also, make sure the item you are replacing is in the inventory, and not a quick slot.

 

 

If the name of the item one's replacing is longer than "BSPHERE," highlight the remaining letters to look at the hex code numbers connected to it (they'll be highlighted too, now, as a result), and replace the now highlighted numbers with "00." I'm not sure what to do if "BSPHERE" is longer than the original item code, or if that's an issue at all. Make sure, obviously, that the name is exactly "BSPHERE."

 

You have to replace a preexisting item to get the item you want, due to the way the save files work (they "dynamically resize"). You can't spawn items out of nothing into empty slots.

 

 

After I did this, I loaded the edited save file without any issue or noticed bugs/corruption. The Bronze Sphere was now in the inventory where the clot charm used to be...Success!

 

I don't know that the game will treat the Bronze Sphere like it would treat the original, but it has so far (as far as I can tell). A better chance than none at all. I was able to save the game slot without issue.

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[Tagaziel]

If my understanding of game logic is correct, the game only checks if you have a Bronze Sphere item, not if you have the Bronze Sphere Pharod dropped.