GreasyDogMeat Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 In NwN 2 I'm currently playing a Bard named Swift Tard who can be quite Hard to best with his Shards. Ok, that was crap, but its true. I can't speak for the PnP bard, but in NwN 2 they are very helpful in a party. The points where I really have a hard time involve one on one events, especially in the Mulsantir lodge in MotB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Maybe it's more to do with the fact that you don't notice them doing any good. I mean a warlock stands there blasting things. But the songster? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramza Posted November 20, 2007 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 (edited) I have kinda created a variant Bard class. They keep bardic lore and bardic singing, and they gain bonus feats every 5 levels (starting at level 5). Moreover, the spellcasting system and the bardic song are handled differently. I got inspired from both the NWN bard and the Monte Cook bard. From what I understand, a Bard's greatest advantages are his skill points, his spells and his singing. I have tried to develop the latter two features in order to make them more viable (especially on one-on-one combat). 1) I decided that bards cast spellsongs. These are divided in four different levels : Spellchords (lv1), Spellnotes (lv2), Spellmelodies (lv3), Spellchants (lv4). I mostly use Monte Cook's spellcasting system for that (Complete Book of Eldritch Might or something like that). 2) I also decided to use NWN 1's bardic music feature. It may seem overpowered to some of you but I really think that it is that particular ability that improves a bard's odds of survival. To balance a bit things, I have made the bardic music bonuses increase in a much smoother way. I have completely changed the way they were handled in NWN2 but I recycled some ideas: I have kept some of the inspirations because they determine the bardic music bonuses as the bard progresses in levels. I still haven't finalized my variant bard class' description, but I may post it here once it is done. Edited November 20, 2007 by ramza "Ooo, squirrels, Boo! I know I saw them! Quick, throw nuts!" -Minsc "I am a well-known racist in the Realms! Elves? Dwarves? Ha! Kill'em all! Humans rule! -Me Volourn will never grow up, he's like the Black Peter Pan, here to tell you that it might be great to always be a child, but everybody around is gonna hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Inspired by this thread I have started a NWN2 persistent world character who is a bard. And just to make certain I'm not even a very good one I am a Tiefling with a -2 cha starter. It's been roleplaying fun so far, but I must say next to a wizard I look pretty pokey. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramza Posted November 20, 2007 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 Inspired by this thread I have started a NWN2 persistent world character who is a bard. And just to make certain I'm not even a very good one I am a Tiefling with a -2 cha starter. It's been roleplaying fun so far, but I must say next to a wizard I look pretty pokey. Nice... However, I am interested to see how much better (or worse) your character will fare compared to a pure wizard (or any other class for that matter) when you will have reached higher levels (above level 15)... "Ooo, squirrels, Boo! I know I saw them! Quick, throw nuts!" -Minsc "I am a well-known racist in the Realms! Elves? Dwarves? Ha! Kill'em all! Humans rule! -Me Volourn will never grow up, he's like the Black Peter Pan, here to tell you that it might be great to always be a child, but everybody around is gonna hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 ramza, indeed. That should be interesting. We'll see how it goes, and also how non-combat goes. I think I may be going to become a sort of roving reporter in the LA Confidential style. Or possibly a cop. Not really sure what I can get away with. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramza Posted December 1, 2007 Author Share Posted December 1, 2007 So, how is it going? "Ooo, squirrels, Boo! I know I saw them! Quick, throw nuts!" -Minsc "I am a well-known racist in the Realms! Elves? Dwarves? Ha! Kill'em all! Humans rule! -Me Volourn will never grow up, he's like the Black Peter Pan, here to tell you that it might be great to always be a child, but everybody around is gonna hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 My graphics card is dying of leprosy. I can't play. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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