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[alanschu]

As I've not recognized any logical explanations for why NASA refuses to give the recordings of that supposed landmark in the history of humanity and as the claims for the illogicalities in the former memories of those recordings, you cannot blame me for thinking that it was a weak psychological war tactic against CCCP. You don't have to worry I think as no CCCP politicians have discovered those illogicalities until they are destroyed in 90s.

 

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Wouldn't CCCP have had their eyes on the situation with the moon landing, and been able to show that it was false at the time?

[Xard]

So, uh, does Illuminator still think that moon landings were faked? Old topic was locked so I ask here

 

Btw, what's this "evil" thingy?

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As I've not recognized any logical explanations for why NASA refuses to give the recordings of that supposed landmark in the history of humanity and as the claims for the illogicalities in the former memories of those recordings, you cannot blame me for thinking that it was a weak psychological war tactic against CCCP. You don't have to worry I think as no CCCP politicians have discovered those illogicalities until they are destroyed in 90s.

 

Here is another link touching on the tragedy of missing recordings of fake landing.

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So you trust that link, but not this? Where's the logic, they both are webpages.

 

Besides, that apgn.org/whatever uses same arguments as proof which were declined by my link up there. I saw same "no stars" and " weird shadow" parts in that article.

 

From that article about the "star stuff":

3. There are no stars in any of the photos, and astronauts never report

seeing any stars from the capsule windows. Yuri Gagarin commented that

the stars were astonishingly brilliant (see the external link below),

and some NASA photos do show stars. Hoax proponents claim that the

stars in the photos were removed, because professional astronomers

would be able to use them to prove that the photos were not taken from

the moon. (See, for instance, the photos above.)

No stars visible observing The Moon and Mir from the Space Shuttle

Discovery

Enlarge

No stars visible observing The Moon and Mir from the Space Shuttle

Discovery

Space Shuttle Atlantis docked with Mir, no stars visible from the Soyuz

spacecraft

Enlarge

Space Shuttle Atlantis docked with Mir, no stars visible from the Soyuz

spacecraft

Zarya from the Space Shuttle, no stars visible.

Enlarge

Zarya from the Space Shuttle, no stars visible.

 

* Stars are also never seen in Space Shuttle, Mir,

International Space Station Earth observation photos, or even sporting

events that take place at night. The sun in the Earth/Moon area shines

as brightly as on a clear noon day on Earth, so cameras used for

imaging these things are set for daylight exposure, with quick shutter

speeds in order to prevent overexposing the film. The dim light of the

stars simply does not have a chance to expose the film. (This effect

can be demonstrated on Earth by attempting to view stars from a

brightly lit parking lot. You can only see them if you somehow block

out all illuminated objects from your field of view, and then let your

eyes adjust for night vision. Otherwise, it is like taking a picture of

the night sky with exposure settings for a bright sunny day. Science

fiction movies and television shows do confuse this issue by depicting

stars as visible in space under all lighting conditions.) Stars were

seen by every Apollo mission crew except for the unfortunate Apollo 13

(they couldn't see the stars due to the fact that oxygen and water

vapor created a haze around the spacecraft). Stars were used for

navigation purposes and were occasionally also seen through cabin

windows when the conditions allowed. To see stars, nothing lit by

sunlight could be in the viewers field of view.(Plait 2002:158-60).

 

* Stars are not dramatically brighter in space (above the

Earth's atmosphere). Professional astronomer and two-time space shuttle

astronaut Ronald A. Parise stated that he could barely see stars at all

from space. He had to turn out all of the lights in the shuttle to even

glimpse the stars (Plait 2002:160).

 

* Believers in the hoax theory contend that the stars were

removed from the photographs because they would have looked identical

to the stars as seen from the Earth, i.e. no parallax view. However,

the distance from the Earth to the Moon is very small compared to the

distance to the stars, so no parallax would have been visible anyway.

(The nearest star is over 100,000,000 times farther away than the Moon,

and most stars are much farther away than that.)

 

edit: It looks like that originally that article had pics in it too. Now all I see is "Enlarge" and such, duh. Rest hoax claims are there too, you may read answers to them from the link, I am not going to quote whole article.

 

Besides, my link gives sources you can read and investigate if you don't believe mere webpage

Edited September 28, 2006 by Xard

[alanschu]

edit: It looks like that originally that article had pics in it too. Now all I see is "Enlarge" and such, duh. Rest hoax claims are there too, you may read answers to them from the link, I am not going to quote whole article.

 

The article was taken from a copy-paste of Wikipedia, to preserve it if it were to be deleted from wikipedia.

[alanschu]

This one was a pretty good read.

[The Illuminator]

  So you trust that link, but not this? Where's the logic, they both are webpages.

 

  Besides, that apgn.org/whatever uses same arguments as proof which were declined by my link up there. I saw same "no stars" and " weird shadow" parts in that article.

 

From that article about the "star stuff":

3. There are no stars in any of the photos, and astronauts never report

seeing any stars from the capsule windows. Yuri Gagarin commented that

the stars were astonishingly brilliant (see the external link below),

and some NASA photos do show stars. Hoax proponents claim that the

stars in the photos were removed, because professional astronomers

would be able to use them to prove that the photos were not taken from

the moon. (See, for instance, the photos above.)

No stars visible observing The Moon and Mir from the Space Shuttle

Discovery

Enlarge

No stars visible observing The Moon and Mir from the Space Shuttle

Discovery

Space Shuttle Atlantis docked with Mir, no stars visible from the Soyuz

spacecraft

Enlarge

Space Shuttle Atlantis docked with Mir, no stars visible from the Soyuz

spacecraft

Zarya from the Space Shuttle, no stars visible.

Enlarge

Zarya from the Space Shuttle, no stars visible.

 

* Stars are also never seen in Space Shuttle, Mir,

International Space Station Earth observation photos, or even sporting

events that take place at night. The sun in the Earth/Moon area shines

as brightly as on a clear noon day on Earth, so cameras used for

imaging these things are set for daylight exposure, with quick shutter

speeds in order to prevent overexposing the film. The dim light of the

stars simply does not have a chance to expose the film. (This effect

can be demonstrated on Earth by attempting to view stars from a

brightly lit parking lot. You can only see them if you somehow block

out all illuminated objects from your field of view, and then let your

eyes adjust for night vision. Otherwise, it is like taking a picture of

the night sky with exposure settings for a bright sunny day. Science

fiction movies and television shows do confuse this issue by depicting

stars as visible in space under all lighting conditions.) Stars were

seen by every Apollo mission crew except for the unfortunate Apollo 13

(they couldn't see the stars due to the fact that oxygen and water

vapor created a haze around the spacecraft). Stars were used for

navigation purposes and were occasionally also seen through cabin

windows when the conditions allowed. To see stars, nothing lit by

sunlight could be in the viewers field of view.(Plait 2002:158-60).

 

* Stars are not dramatically brighter in space (above the

Earth's atmosphere). Professional astronomer and two-time space shuttle

astronaut Ronald A. Parise stated that he could barely see stars at all

from space. He had to turn out all of the lights in the shuttle to even

glimpse the stars (Plait 2002:160).

 

* Believers in the hoax theory contend that the stars were

removed from the photographs because they would have looked identical

to the stars as seen from the Earth, i.e. no parallax view. However,

the distance from the Earth to the Moon is very small compared to the

distance to the stars, so no parallax would have been visible anyway.

(The nearest star is over 100,000,000 times farther away than the Moon,

and most stars are much farther away than that.)

 

edit: It looks like that originally that article had pics in it too. Now all I see is "Enlarge" and such, duh. Rest hoax claims are there too, you may read answers to them from the link, I am not going to quote whole article.

 

Besides, my link gives sources you can read and investigate if you don't believe mere webpage

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I'm aware of those explanations made against the discussions of illogicalities in the records of moon landing. However, there are 3 realities convincing me about some issues:

 

1. The claims proving that moon landing was a trick are very logical and powerful.

2. The explanations made against those claims are, too, logical but are not enough in my opinion to answer all of the claims and that's why;

3. The recordings are claimed to be 'MISSING' by NASA and this really is funny and harming the prestige of NASA.

 

However, you are free to still think that apollo really landed moon, but I think the opposite.

 

PS:I'm very sorry for my poor english. Maybe it improves in the future with your help of posting english grammar masterpieces for my reading practises.

[alanschu]

PS:I'm very sorry for my poor english. Maybe it improves in the future with your help of posting english grammar masterpieces for my reading practises.

 

Was this directed at me?