Inanna Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 I can't really understand why good people would be averse to playing DS. I mean, we get to be good all the time. Here you have a controlled environment with *no* consequences - you're not hurting anyone - and you get the chance to be as rotten as you want. It's what attracts me to playing evil, anyway. It's always difficult for an hour or so (I always do LS/good first, so I feel bad about being mean to NPCs I like) but then it settles into being just what it is, a *story*. It *certainly* wasn't because it was easy. As someone said earlier, I wanted to exert my influence over my slaves - *ahem* party members, and turn people like Bao-Dur and Disciple over to the Dark Side. But to gain influence with them, I had to do good deeds/say nice things. I wish there had been a 'lie' option as there was in part of K1. My character (as I roleplayed it) was *not* doing things out of the goodness of her heart, but purely in order to subvert her henchmen. Very DS, much more so than just running around killing everyone (though that can be fun, too). So, lots of LS points I didn't want. Means to an end *shrug*
LadyCrimson Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 There's a difference between running over monsters in a driving game (or whatever) and twisting a person's soul around by treating them shabbily and breaking their will. One is impersonal...(like rubber-necking an accident), the other is personal (like purposely causing the accident) . Some people have a hard time with that, even in a video game. I'm not sure it's that hard to understand, really. Social training can be hard to get past, so to speak. *shrug “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
Shryke Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 personally i find light side much easier to play. i cant help but want to turn people into jedi, and you need light side points to do so (cept for atton) when your mind works against you - fight back with substance abuse!
LadyCrimson Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 Actually, you don't need light side points to turn people to Jedi...I think someone pointed it out already, but if you descrease their influence enough, it achieves the same thing. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
SteveThaiBinh Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 I can't really understand why good people would be averse to playing DS. I mean, we get to be good all the time. Here you have a controlled environment with *no* consequences - you're not hurting anyone - and you get the chance to be as rotten as you want. It's what attracts me to playing evil, anyway. It's always difficult for an hour or so (I always do LS/good first, so I feel bad about being mean to NPCs I like) but then it settles into being just what it is, a *story*. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think the feeling of discomfort stays longer with some people than with others. I really appreciate the 'Switch Character' save game feature in Kotor 2 because I can't play a DS character for more than an hour or so without feeling guilty and needed to cleanse myself by doing good. I know how ridiculous this is, but that doesn't make the feeling of guilt go away. I enjoy playing DS characters, but in small doses. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov)
Shryke Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 Actually, you don't need light side points to turn people to Jedi...I think someone pointed it out already, but if you descrease their influence enough, it achieves the same thing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> oh.... well gee dont i just feel like a complete idiot right now! when your mind works against you - fight back with substance abuse!
atomic Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 I find it easy to be DS, specially on Dantooine. (Am I the only one who thought Vrook was an annoying prick?) Killing off all the guys, both good and bad. Give in to the Dark Side, it is the easy path. Remember, easy=good. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No you're not. I vote for "prick" vrook, also.
Shryke Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 vrook must die i was so happy in kotor1 when malak destroys the jedi enclave on dantooine coz i thought he was finally dead! when your mind works against you - fight back with substance abuse!
Flipside Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 vrook must die i was so happy in kotor1 when malak destroys the jedi enclave on dantooine coz i thought he was finally dead! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I were even more happyer when Kreia drain his force powers and kill him. "I'm pretty sure if they took all the porn off the internet there'd only be one site left, and it'd be called 'Bring back the porn'" - Perry Cox
Shryke Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 i prefer to kill him myself when your mind works against you - fight back with substance abuse!
atomic Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 Now we're seeing some dark siders Could we make a poll about "Vrook must die". The options could be: Vrook must die: - Slowly - Quickly - Over and over again - With a DOUBLE-lightsaber up his ass
Shryke Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 i vote over and over again!!! coz then you could come up with even more painful ways to kill him when your mind works against you - fight back with substance abuse!
vl182 Posted May 25, 2005 Posted May 25, 2005 K1 was better in DS roleplaying IMHO. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As for people who say they "can't" play DS because it makes them feel icky, I don't understand this. You're playing a video game. Detach yourself from being a baby and just take on a role of a villain. Do you say "I can't play this" when it comes to games like Grand Theft Auto where you have to shoot people and steal cars? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I never said i cant play it. I love games that let you be evil, but for most people it simply isnt natural to be someone who kills a helpless woman. its just that you have to take a choice that you wouldnt in real life.
Inanna Posted May 26, 2005 Posted May 26, 2005 I must guiltily admit that apart from watching Atton slowly turn undead, killing Vrook is one of the *major* attractions of the Dark Side... I vote 'over and over again'.
caradoc Posted May 27, 2005 Posted May 27, 2005 The background story has several points that make it understandable to have a DS Exile, IMHO. First, you are the only one of Revan's followers who didn't turn DS and went back to the Order. However, the council does everything it can to send you to the dark side (Atris even comments in the trial scene that 'he'll only go back to Revan' or something like that). Then, when you go all the way to find the Jedi masters and save their sorry little butts, what do they do? In the rebuilt enclave scene they stasis you and would have cut you off from the Force had Kreia not made Jedi kebab of them. In my last game I tried to go DS that very moment, alas, there are few opportunities left to do so. At least I got rid of the LS mastery by killing that pathetic soldier at Citadel Station.
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