Help triggering a Mutiny? - not working after hours of sailing

[Vandervecken]

This is a cross-post with Reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/comments/i37c8j/help_triggering_a_mutiny_not_working_after_hours/

So, I've been sailing around for hours trying to trigger a mutiny. I get the same set of events over and over, and no mutiny. Here are the details:
1) I am at or below 11 morale. Usually 1 morale.
2) No food or drink or wages
3) I'm in the original Sloop, and I have 5 crew on board (I hear you have to be minimally crewed at least). I have tried moving them between positions.
4) I have tried some food, no food, pay, no pay.
5) The events I get regularly are: "sickness", "silverfish", "fist fights" and "cannibalism" but no mutiny! I get these events with such regularity that I feel like I must be doing something wrong.
6) I have not taken the Infamous Past Berath's Blessing
7) I'm in the mid-game. Did a bunch of quests on Neketaka, now around Level 11. First bout of extended sailing.

I'm playing on PotD, Deadfire 5.0. I have sailed back and forth for literally hours. I've been through dozens upon dozens of scripted events. Which leads me to believe there's some missing condition.

Help please?

Thanks,

Vandervecken

[Wormerine]

I remember it always being troublesome.

https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/101348-how-to-make-mutiny-happen/

I didn't try it in 5.0 I think, but I remember it was annoyingly long before I managed to trigger one.

[Vandervecken]

I read through that post, and have incorporated its suggestions:. Still no luck.

[thelee]

1 hour ago, Vandervecken said:

7) I'm in the mid-game. Did a bunch of quests on Neketaka, now around Level 11. First bout of extended sailing.

crazy idea - try advancing the main quest a bit? a lot of people hav ecompalined about random events in nekataka not triggering, but it turned out some of them are gated behind main quest progress - i had a long time of no events, advanced the main quest, and then suddenly had a bunch. mutiny seems like an odd thing to be gated behind story, but you never know

 

i got a mutiny once, but it was a while ago. unfortunately, due to regressions that popped up especially from 4.0->5.0 i would not be surprised if they broke mutiny as a mechanic and it's such an underexplored area no one noticed.

[Vandervecken]

That's a super interesting idea. I haven't advanced the main story since arriving in Neketaka. I'll do it and report back. Any suggestion how far I should go? Finish Hasongo?

[thelee]

2 minutes ago, Vandervecken said:

That's a super interesting idea. I haven't advanced the main story since arriving in Neketaka. I'll do it and report back. Any suggestion how far I should go? Finish Hasongo?

yeah. there is definitely stuff gated behind ashen maw as well, but at tha tpoint i would be extremely surprised if mutiny was gated behind that.

[Vandervecken]

I finally got my mutiny, and I think I figured out something. You have to wait until after the first murder. So you should have enough crew on the ship to allow for one murder and to kill the murderer, and still have a minimum complement.