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Mechanics interaction between Berserker confuse, affliction resistance and inspirations?


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I'd be very grateful if someone could illuminate me as to how these mechanics interact with each other.

 

  • Berserker Frenzy places the character under the Confused status effect.
  • Devil of Caroc's Breastplate provides the character with Resistance to Intellect afflictions.
  • Infuse With Vital Essence grants the player the Smart inspiration.

So, questions:

 

Situation A: wearing the Breastplate

  1. What happens when you wear the Breastplate under Frenzy?  Does the Confused status simply disappear?
  2. What happens if an enemy afflicts you with Confused while wearing the Breastplate and you are Frenzied?  Are you now Confused?
  3. What happens if an enemy afflicts you with Charm while wearing the Breastplate and you are Frenzied?  Are you now Charmed?

Situation B: under Infuse With Vital Essence effect

  1. What happens when you cast IWVE under Frenzy?  Do you gain the Smart inspiration AND lose Confused, or do the two cancel each other out?
  2. What happens if an enemy afflicts you with Confused while under IWVE and Frenzy?
  3. What happens if an enemy afflicts you with Charm while under IWVE and Frenzy?

Situation C: wearing the Breastplate and under IWVE

  1. What happens when you cast Frenzy?  Do you gain Smart?
  2. What happens if an enemy afflicts you with Confused while wearing the BP, under IWVE and Frenzy?
  3. What happens if an enemy afflicts you with Charm while wearing the BP, under IWVE and Frenzy?

Bonus question: what happens if someone casts the Acute or Brilliant inspirations on your character in addition to the BP, IWVE and Frenzy?



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A1: yes. You will not get confused but retain all benefits. Since Confusion is tier 1 you will be left with no afflicton at all.

A2: nope. You will not get confused. You can only be confused by a charm attack. You will get charmed by a dominaton attack.

A3: see above. Frenzy has no impact on all of this since the confusion from Frenzy gets stripped off right on appliance and is gone (the confusion is only cast on you when you activate Frenzy, it's not permanently reapplied or something).

B1: cancel each other out. You will keep fit but it doesn't stack with Frenzy's hardy. So you are basically casting IwVE only to remove confusion.

B2: you become confused again unless the smart inspiration from IwVE is still active (and was not canceled by Frenzy before - for example if you cast it two times: one time to remove confusion and a second time to get smart).

B3: if you are still smart then smart and confusion/charm/dominate cancel each other out (tiers don't matter). If Infuse is still active but you lost the smart part because it was canceled by Berserker confusion (or a charm spell or whatever) you will get charmed.

C1: yes

C2: good question. Depends what will be checked first. I suspect first the confusion is downgraded to nothing and you will retain smart. If it's the other way round smart and confusion will get cancelled and that would be a bummer.

C3: however it's checked: smart will be gone and you will not be afflicted with confusoon, charm or dominate.

Bonus: smart gets suppressed by the higher tier.

It's quite simple: resistance always downgrades an affliction that hits you (not the whole spell). Inspirations and Afflictons cancel each other out. Infuse with Viral Essence puts two inspirations on you. Once they are applied they work seperately. So an int afflicton will remove smart, but not Infuse with Viral Essence as a whole.

Edited by Boeroer, 14 September 2018 - 12:12 PM.


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Adding in a bit more info that might be helpful.

 

If the affliction's attack gets missed by your defenses, it skips the affliction/inspiration check.  If it grazes, it will do the check.  Kind of obvious though. :p

 

In the case of abilities that have multiple inspirations linked to it, it will break out into its respective types so it won't completely remove the ability's buff.

 

Some inspirations/afflictions may also be linked to other types (fire, poison, etc) that can also cancel them out.


Edited by Metaturtle, 13 September 2018 - 10:53 PM.


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Wow thanks guys.

 

So if I'm understanding this correctly, having both Infuse With Vital Essence active AND wearing the Breastplate counteracts the Confused status from Berserker Frenzy and then gives me the Smart inspiration on top.

 

That's the main thing I was wondering about.  Thanks for the info!



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Wow thanks guys.

 

So if I'm understanding this correctly, having both Infuse With Vital Essence active AND wearing the Breastplate counteracts the Confused status from Berserker Frenzy and then gives me the Smart inspiration on top.

 

That's the main thing I was wondering about.  Thanks for the info!

 

Yarr


Edited by Metaturtle, 14 September 2018 - 12:26 AM.





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