Ekaros
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I think topic is worthy to bring on for years to come. I mean why not? Not like it's resolved properly or in good manner...
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Or they could have an NPC standing next to fountain... And allow some better bonuses with gold payment, for a high quality meal with exoctic spices or something... Why not just use systems they have already in place... In general the whole place doesn't make sense and is lifeless...
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Someone said it best earlier, "this is not the hill to die on."
Why not, if we don't die here or kill the issue here it will grow on. You have to stop it at some point or eventually there isn't anything left to save. As such sometimes you just can't let things pass on and most effective tactic is to cause greater harm than doing right would have done.
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Yes. For greater good of gaming!
You're either dishonest or delusional.
No I just have had enough of BS. If few bad developers have to die, it's a small price to pay for open and free medium.
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Here's hoping that the beautiful soul of this game won't be shattered too much as the franchise goes forward.
What's to worry, they have already sold to cencorship so it's all downhill from here.
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Add the limerick back. Or censor the rest of the game to decent standards containing absolutely nothing offensive.
This is the hill you choose to die on?
Yes. For greater good of gaming!
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Add the limerick back. Or censor the rest of the game to decent standards containing absolutely nothing offensive.
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There is mid to late game abilities at least from priest and chanter...
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No sale, Ms. tweeter. I have no respect for 'gamers' who don't bother doing research. One of Obsidian's primary sales pitches for the PE kickstarter was that since there's no publisher, there'd be no content shackles. They promised us, over and over again, during the game's development, that the game *would* explore controversial issues and other taboos that Publisher-controlled games wouldn't normally be able to explore.
Yet here we are today, barely a week after the game's release, and already Obsidian is being asked, by people who were apparently unaware of the type of game they bought, to address the very content they promised to deliver and did deliver.
But as they already gave up to censorship why not just go rest of the way. Offending anyone is bad so why not remove anything offending. It's only a little things after all.
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Being hollowborn is equivalent to a child being born with a life threatening disease. Obsidian support killing genetically diseased children and their mothers.
I considered it to be comparable to disability. You know maybe someone will call this out on twitter to the important people...
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No they only listen to twitter.
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There never was anything to worry about; Obsidian were never going to change the actual content of the game, even if all of Twitter rose up as one and cried out for horrible, horrible censorship.
You never know. If some of the big names get in, they probably will after all media is what they listen to.
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I don't think removing this hurts the Obsidian any further. As they have show it's the group of people they like the most. As such anything offensive to them should be removed. After all it's them who buy the games.
I think there is lot of further things that could be removed from the game to make it more suitable for them. Great marketing it will be!
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I don't feel sorry for them, after all they dug their own grave. Now it's question if they climb up or if we bury them. They still have chance to redeem themselves...
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Guise, did it occur to you that maybe they had it changed because they didn't like it after someone pointed it out to them, regardless of her politics?
Inconceivable, I know.
Actually that doesn't seem to have been the case. So, highly unlikely.
To turn the question around "Gui, did it ever occur to you that they asked the backer for a change because of the outcry? Inconceiveable, I know."
Obsidian choose what they percieved as being the lesser of two evils. I just hope that they made the right choice, business wise.
True, it's their choice and their current PR spin stands, I know what my actions will be. I don't think they did things right and it might come to hurt them in long run.
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I still think Obsidian needs to give real answers about if joke was supported by them in the first place. And why they game in on twitter mob. And why they saw it required to contact person about it for possible change. Be honest with people and stop lying!
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Could someone explain (to a non-native speaker) why the original limerick was considered offensive? If i understood it correctly, not the transgender guy was killed, but the joke is actually on the idiot that couldn't deal with accidentially ****ing a guy and then he killed himself. So the joke isn't anti-transgender imo, more like anti-'straight guys with extremely insecure self-image'.
People in English native land don't have hardships so they occupt themselves by making them up.
That is usually white people with money, which is greatest privileged in the world... But they don't think it as such. And then there is some who live off this kind of attention...
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Obsidian is one of the few companies left still willing to make old school RPGs, both 'SJW' and anti-SJW sides are now detracting from this goal. I hope you all realize what you're doing. EA is probably laughing their asses off. Good job.
No. This would be a complete non-issue if the bigots hadn't thrown a fit.
Go read the replies to the other thread. Someone actually vowed to undermine everything Obsidian ever does. The reaction is completely, hilariously, out of proportion.
Money, marketing and PR is only thing they understand. Boycott and speech is only tools consumer has, as such advocacy is best thing a consumer can do when they come across immoral practises. Recent months have show just how deep problems the industry has, something must be done for better tomorrow. And few bad apples dying of is small price to pay.
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Nice move, Obsidian. Now my SJW-y acquaintances hate you for letting him play victim in the new epitaph, while the whiners who always cry "censorship" when someone bursts their comfortable little bubble of privilege hate you for changing the original.
Personally, I think this whole thing could've been avoided with tighter control over backer material. Maybe then my eyes wouldn't bleed when reading the backer NPC stories either!
Seriously though, I don't get those who have sworn off Obsidian games forever because of this thing. What are you gonna play now? Bioware games? Elder Scrolls? It's not like Obsidian has, like, any competitors at what they do.
Over thousand games in backlog and growing... I'm not running out of games any time soon. And then there is always classics too to be replayed...
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The chasm between Japanese devs and western ones widens every day. Hideki Kamiya would've laughed and blocked this hate-mongering tranny lunatic right away. When SJW went after Hideo Kojima over Quiet he responded with a frankly chilling remark about how they would be ashamed of themselves by the time MGSV came out and said nothing else on the matter. Why do western devs always capitulate right away whenever a professional victim comes screeching to their door?
Thankfully I think there is still sensible developers in Europe. At least part of USA scene seems to be lost to corruption and other issues... Then again AAA knows their market and couldn't care less about these people...
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I'm going to editorialize for just a moment. First of all, I don't see every post. If you report something from a member who doesn't need approval, I'm more likely to see it. ...But I think it's important to be charitable with one another. Only report things that rise to a reportable offense. That line will differ between members, but there is a line. The upshot, however, is that I mostly see posts by new (or newly posting) members of the forum. When I've gone through quickly, I've seen that most of the posts are actually pretty respectful even if clearly typed with some heat and passion. Fair enough.
Remember, after this game is done, we're going to have more games and hopefully a lot more from Obsidian. The person fighting on the 'other side' right now might very well be the person backing your side in the next big fight. Don't let this become an all out war. If you get to where you're seeing red, take a break. Look at other threads. Play the game. Talk to the spouse. Play with the kids. Have a bite to eat (or a beer if you're of age and so inclined). Then, when you're not so heavily invested, come back and rejoin the discussion.
Anyhow, I was originally surprised at how rancorous people were on this issue, but now I'm surprised that it has really actually remained pretty civil all things considered. Congrats, Obsidz forumites! Good for you!
There is fight already going on. And the sides are those for freedom of expression and accountability. And those who want to deliver their narrative and benefit their privileged circles. I know which side I support and it seems that Obsidian choose the wrong side. It's already long fight and it isn't dying down. They could have let the storm weather over, but now they have to endure the consequences of their actions. I don't believe those people who advocate for censorship will ever join in the fight for good things for industry.
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I wonder if there is someone with 500$ reward who is up to asking to change theirs to something similar to original. Or Quote of that.
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Okay, so now it's time for me to boycott Obsidian and warn everyone about their practises for foreseeable future. I just can't stand this industry succumbing to outrage and losing it's artistic integrity.
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What was time line with Maerwald? It confused me a bit... And when does Soul enter a child? At birth?
Teen Modification - Swearing Discussion
in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
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I mean if it offends someone by any rights why not remove it? No game has right to be offensive and as Obsidian already cave in on these demands why not go rest of the way?