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One way or another, Obsidian has lost value with me. How could I ever defend them from their reputation as a buggy developer when, even if they were 100% truthful
1: They had super sloppy vetting process (I'd really like to see the guidelines it went by released publicly)
2: A genocide advocat on Twitter gets more attention than the many remaining critical bugs
Listen to yourself dude.
#1 is essentially "they did not censor enough." Weren't you JUST throwing a fit there was censorship at all?
#2 Sawyer gave attention to a different party entirely. Sawyer never directly responded to anything the genodice advocate said.
No, it's "they didn't even bother to censor consistently".
Eric and Cheong both advocate genocide and those are the only two people Sawyer @ed. Either way he listened to one.
Eric's not even her deadname. You are fooling noone. Try KiA, they'd upvote your **** to the ceiling.
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Firedorn knew it was offensive. He expected it to be rejected. He obviously did not intend it as just a harmless jest.
Why the hell are you so invested in making it seem like he is without fault?
I knew it was offensive. It was meant as a joke, you know...an offensive one. What fault is there in expressing myself with something controversial?
Knock yourself out, but you better not be whining if someone expresses themselves by calling it out.
Calling it out is quite different from attempting to extinguish it. It's fine to disagree with questionable content but to call for it to be cut out... well, that speaks of great immaturity.
So you're ok with speech you disagree with so long as it's impotent. Persuasion = censorship. Of course. Of course.
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If SJWs had that power, trust me, wizards would be a lot more powerful.
Heh, I could see it now - Wizard spells called: Entitlement, Repressive Freedom, Firedorning.....
Nah we'd bring back the hardcore Contigency **** from BG2.
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Firedorn knew it was offensive. He expected it to be rejected. He obviously did not intend it as just a harmless jest.
Why the hell are you so invested in making it seem like he is without fault?
I knew it was offensive. It was meant as a joke, you know...an offensive one. What fault is there in expressing myself with something controversial?
Knock yourself out, but you better not be whining if someone expresses themselves by calling it out.
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Well, if Firedorn asserts that he had a choice, contrary to what the "worked wth many of our backers to iterate on content that didn't strike the right tone" statement implies, then I'm not going to call that a lie.
I still find Obsidian's post on it bizarre and heavily implying that they would have forced a change.
You know how PR works... it generally make things worse when the truth isn't as bad as it seems. Sometimes not bothering about "What will people think if I say this? ... and what if I say that instead?" can make everything go smoother. Obsidian isn't perfect, but that doesn't make them terrible people either.
The thing is, if they are willing to bend over for this, it also reflects on their integrity in other areas... like development.
There are already big threads pointing out some fundamental flaws in the rule set, as well as some funky decisions with their art style. So this is just another highlight with something internally wrong imo.
Game is still impressive though
If SJWs had that power, trust me, wizards would be a lot more powerful.
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BTW as the 'SJW' y'all seem to dislike the most, I'm ok with violence, rape, and even transphobia in an RPG.
But not as a cheap joke. And not in a way that makes no effort to see things from the victim's eyes.
Imagine a world where our demands to do **** well are accommodated. The horror!
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"She's horrible that's why it's ok to make transphobic comments out of frustration!"
Yes, please, keep talking.
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You think she's a terrible person, and yet it's ok that their actions are morally equivalent.
I dont know if you noticed it but they are using it to insult this person because they are upset. Just like she wants to kill all men because she is frustrated and upset.BTW a few people tried to use Erika's deadname. It's not actually Eric. That's pretty lazy of you.
If you're going to be a bigot and blow your whole case to hell put some more effort into it.
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Name before she transitioned. Gets hurled at transfolk a lot.
deadname?BTW a few people tried to use Erika's deadname. It's not actually Eric. That's pretty lazy of you.
If you're going to be a bigot and blow your whole case to hell put some more effort into it,
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BTW a few people tried to use Erika's deadname. It's not actually Eric. That's pretty lazy of you.
If you're going to be a bigot and blow your whole case to hell put some more effort into it.
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Like their critics are using Gamergate graphics. In other words, prettt ****ing justified.How do you feel now Obsidian?
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I love how you think anyone will take you guys professed motives seriously when your posts lecture about how misgendering is ok.
Like, credibility went all the way out the window there.
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I feel better now that everyone's true motives are coming out now.
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If you think calling someone a tranny and misgendering them is ok then that's I need to know about this outrage.
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Totes not rabidly transphobic.Yay, caving in to the demands of those that most likely didn't even buy the game.
Oh it's much worse. It's caving in to the demands of a twitter tranny who likes to to tweet disgusting genocidal fantasies. Yet zealously expects others to live by a strict moral standard he would never, not even for a split second, apply to himself. I mean the thought would just never register.
Actual bigots: go ahead and admit it like this guy has so we can move on with the substance.
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That's the French Revolution. Lol.
That's a bald faced lie. It was first used by a Jesuit during the 1848 revolutions.I'm not sure wether to laugh or cry when I see people using the "SJW" acronym. For one, it only shows how fast people are to grab on to propaganda. Secondly, it makes me wonder if they ever consider how much ****tier their lives would be without this horrible horrible concept known as social justice.
"Social Justice" began as the name of an anti-semite publication in the 1920s US. Coming from a family with no shortage of Jewish ancestors, I can say my life would be a lot better without it.
And it's not the only bald faced lie being thrown around in this thread.
So it's actually associated with the violent and chaotic "reign of terror" where people were murdered daily for mere association, birth or opinion? Much better!
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Lol she was taunting Gamergaters calling her slurs. Not the same thing.
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That's a bald faced lie. It was first used by a Jesuit during the 1848 revolutions.I'm not sure wether to laugh or cry when I see people using the "SJW" acronym. For one, it only shows how fast people are to grab on to propaganda. Secondly, it makes me wonder if they ever consider how much ****tier their lives would be without this horrible horrible concept known as social justice.
"Social Justice" began as the name of an anti-semite publication in the 1920s US. Coming from a family with no shortage of Jewish ancestors, I can say my life would be a lot better without it.
And it's not the only bald faced lie being thrown around in this thread.
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There are backers that were in favor of this, who wanted this. What makes your demands more important than theirs? And how is what they're doing censorship but what you're threatening not?
Funny thing is no 'SJWs' called for a boycott. Just you. They wanted to talk to the devs, and they did.
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I'm looking forwars to a petition requiring Obsidian to have at least five rapes that serve no purpose to the story per game for the requisite "edgyness."
You wanna boycott, I wanna know what the demands are, and how you'll know Obsidian has fulfilled them.
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Would would really be amazing would be if all the armchair activists here could direct all of the "courage" they've displayed today to a real issue, like the **** that goes down routinely in Washington. The world would really be a better place if this fire showed up when it actually mattered.
That would be great if it wasn't a fallacy of relative privation. How can we hope to stop the corruption in Washington if we can't even sort out videogames, hm?
You're right! Why did we try to oppose the bailouts by pressuring congress when we should have focused on VIDEOGAMES?
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Okay, so now it's time for me to boycott Obsidian and warn everyone about their practises for foreseeable future. I just can't stand this industry succumbing to outrage and losing it's artistic integrity.
What would it take to stop the boycott? Do a dozen transwomen have to be killed in a game, so that Obsidian can show they're serious about not being "censored"?
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Would would really be amazing would be if all the armchair activists here could direct all of the "courage" they've displayed today to a real issue, like the **** that goes down routinely in Washington. The world would really be a better place if this fire showed up when it actually mattered.
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The level of outrage displayed today is several orders of magnitude higher than the original outrage to the original lines themselves.
To those who demand that others "grow a thicker skin", can you avoid sounding like a 5 year old first? Cause that would really help your case if you could pull that off.
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Controversial Limerick Discussion
in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
Posted · Edited by Arouet
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Next you'll be insinuating they spoke with a "gay lisp".