[Phrases are glitched as Spiritualist (Psion/Skald)]

10 hours ago, Boeroer said:

The second I never experienced myself. And I - funnily enough - also played and tested a Skald with Blightheart for quite some time. With Berserker as a second class though, not Psion. No idea where this could come from...

Yeah, the idea for the character came from ideas you and @Shai Hulud espoused.

Well, I got rid of Gernsic's Beast (the 'bonus phrase' invocation) and it seems to have fixed the problem, so maybe it was related to that.

[Phrases are glitched as Spiritualist (Psion/Skald)]

5 hours ago, thelee said:

iirc, you start with the maximum chants you can sing ignoring any subclass-specific boosts. (edit: but you're still limited by subclass-specific penalties)

That’s strange, since I also took the three wyrm invocation at earlier levels so I could have 4 phrases and that functioned as expected. 

2 hours ago, dgray62 said:

I've played skalds a lot and I have never encountered this bug. Do you not even get phrases from melee crits? Also, I was wondering, why psion/skald? It seems like a counter-intuitive combo since psion generally wants to avoid combat, while skalds are designed for it. Soulblade/skald would have a better fit IMO if you want to go melee, while a poison/troubadour caster is fantastic.

Both the Skald and Troubadour subs fit neatly into the ‘infinite spellcasting’ archetype of the Psion multiclass, I’ve found, with the difference being that one increases the amount of resource you have available by making things cost less while the other does it by simply giving you double the amount; two sides of the same coin. Additionally, since skald can only get one phrase per action regardless of how many crits you get with said action (or so I’ve read here) it made sense to me to use Blightheart, which also gives you a phrase per action as long as you’re killing enemies outright or finishing them off and doesn’t rely on multiple layers of RNG.

EDIT: I can still get phrases from melee crits, though.

[Phrases are glitched as Spiritualist (Psion/Skald)]

So there are two parts to this issue, but one or both of them might be simply due to my misunderstanding of game mechanics.

The first part: As a Skald, I picked up Gernsic Slew the Beast because the Skald passive makes it cost 6 phrases instead of 5 and thus I should start the battle with 6 phrases, right? However, I only start with 5 phrases.

The second part: If I use abilities so that I'm left with 1 phrase (generally two 2 cost invocations), I will never gain another phrase for whatever reason. 

Is this a bug? If so, how do I fix it?

[(Tekehu Build) Lord of the Storm]

18 hours ago, Shai Hulud said:

Dragon Thrashed and Thick Grew Their Tongues only proc The Ranga (or avenging storm scrolls / spell) if you have Effort equipped with Hemorrhaging enchant, which I didn't show in this video. Because if you have Effort equipped you don't get the weyc's wand or scimitar procs (refilling phrases and cancelling recovery). You can use Effort and switch weapons to refill phrases. But mostly you have to choose between Effort cheese or super fast phrase refills. 

Whenever you hear the gunshot and see that green glow, if there's an enemy nearby Corrupting Beauty rolls vs will, and if it hits it procs one or more avenging storm bolts. You can see this clearly at e.g. 2:16 where the guys behind me get hit by the corrupting beauty pulse, which procs storm bolts and refills my chanter phrases (also adds duration to LUC inspirations but you can't see this).

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you said 600 turns? Are you playing turn-based? I have no idea if these items work the same in turn-based.

Yeah I play TB, which might be the wall I’m running into.

EDIT: Finally got it to work. What I was missing is that Corrupting Beauty won't hit enemies unless you're standing inside them.

[How viable is WotEP War Caller?]

Would it be viable to leverage the Offensive Parry enchantment of WotEP by drawing aggro with high deflection to generate phrases as a Skald, using the bonus deflection talents from fighter and chanter?

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On 5/6/2023 at 1:31 AM, Shai Hulud said:

Just had a thought, do crits from effort / avenging storm gain phrases for skald? 

EDIT: It does not

Still I cleared the tactical ogres encounter in about five seconds. Troubadour/psion would be quite powerful as a caster with Effort. You start empowering her revenge with wand/scimitar/robe, which triggers muse of mystery and hopefully all 6 LUC inspirations. So you generate 1 phrase per 2 seconds from brisk recitation + muse of mystery, and brilliant gives a phrase per 6s, so combined you have 4 phrases every 3 seconds, cast avenging storm then alternate her revenge, antipathetic field and ghost blades. Or just use bellower so you don't get the +1 cost on inspirations and start with Her Tears, you'd still get 1 phrase per second. 

The chants thick grew their tongues and dragon thrashed become ridiculously good since their crits can proc avenging storm which often chains, which with energized + intuitive gives you a lot of passive interrupts, meanwhile you're generating both focus and phrases and both sides have cheap, powerful .5s casts. For skald they are extremely cheap, her revenge / the thunder / at the sound of his voice all cost 2 phrases 

Too bad you can't play stormspeaker. I mean I know you can with mods / console, I think this stormspeaker build is just crazy broken. Don't even need to rest unlike the druid, and have lots of .5s casts for chanter. Loss of summons isn't that bad because I think you'd clear most fights in about 5 to 10 seconds. 

EDIT 2: Installed a mod and tested stormspeaker. It would be crazy good in parties but you can either use effort or you can get phrases back quickly with sasha's singing scimitar. Using Effort you spend a lot of time waiting for phrases, at least if you've procced scordeo's edge. Can't spam spells like psion/skald. Her Revenge is god tier with The Ranga + Effort though. I get how the corrupting beauty thing works now also

• Killing an enemy with Blightheart gives Corrupting Beauty passive, which pulses every 3s to try to disorient nearby enemies. If you kill an enemy towards end of a combat you can extend it with strand of favor. Otherwise you can extend with Salvation of Time or Wall of Draining. 
• With Corrupting Beauty procced, cast empowered The Ranga while wearing weyc items and coil and sasha's singing scimitar with encore
• Corrupting Beauty pulse rolls vs will at nearby enemies ever 3s. IF IT HITS, The Ranga procs a bolt
• Every time The Ranga is procced, the scimitar + weyc items + coil reapply their "on empower" effects, if you have the wand equipped
• So your phrase count is refilled, muse of mystery is reapplied, omnipotence is reapplied, Follower of the Obscured clears your recovery, and attuned channel is reapplied. Least Unstable Coil is also reapplied, the number depending how many enemies are nearby and hit.

Constentin already stated all this but I wasn't quite following because Corrupted Beauty seems bugged, like it doesn't actually apply disoriented to things as far as I can tell, though I only tested for like 20 minutes, and it doesn't really make sense for it to proc avenging storm bolts, not being a melee attack, but it does. It also makes a gunshot sound whenever it pulses, which also seems buggy.

Can you post a .gif? I couldn’t get Corrupted Beauty to do anything even when I had 600 turns of it and I don’t want to spawn Rotghasts and brick achievements for myself. Also, why does The Dragon Thrashed and Thick Grew Their Tongues work? Doesn’t Avenging Storm/The Ranga only work with weapon attacks?

[(Tekehu Build) Lord of the Storm]

On 5/2/2023 at 3:48 AM, Shai Hulud said:

First you export a character who has sasha's singing scimitar (it's under character sheet, export tab). Then in another game you can hire that character as an adventurer at inns, which includes whatever equipment they had I guess. I've never actually imported characters but I understand this is how it works. 

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I am curious about this build though. Let me see if I understand this correctly...

• corrupted beauty has pulses every 3 seconds, and it's extendable via draining/SOT/SOF?
• empowered avenging storm procs all the weyc stuff + least unstable coil every time a bolt hits?
• corrupted beauty causes avenging storm to proc?
• avenging storm is also extendable? 

Is this right @Constentin Lévine

And what is the druid trick? I looked through some of your recent posts but didn't see it

This is the druid trick.

I also have been unable to get Corrupted Beauty to proc Avenging Storm.

However, empowered Avenging Storm will trigger The Least Unstable Coil whenever it procs. I assume it will do the same with the Weyc items (I haven't done the DLC).

Also, Godlikes can't wear headgear; I don't know why Acina's Tricorn is a required item here.

[Any way to remove infinite duration effects?]

4 hours ago, thelee said:

is this on mainchar or a party member? if the latter, i wonder if removing them and then re-adding them to your party would fix it.

It's on Tekehu. Neither respeccing or benching and rehiring seem to matter.

[Any way to remove infinite duration effects?]

I accidentally bugged out "Blessed Was Wengridh..." with Strand of Favor and I was wondering if there way any way to remove it without casting Arcane Cleanse for 100 hours.