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  1. But this is only because he has four arms and mechanical wrists that can rotate in a full circle to no end. The most skilled lightsaber combatant without force augmented abilities was either Tulak Hord or Kas'im. But Galen Marek could beat any other lightsaber duelist in a fight. Don't all force styles one way or another rely on force augmented abilities? Yes.
  2. Correction, General Grevious would cut down any Jedi/Sith who doesn't have the force as his ally, no matter how skilled they are. But this is only because he has four arms and mechanical wrists that can rotate in a full circle to no end. The most skilled lightsaber combatant without force augmented abilities was either Tulak Hord or Kas'im. But Galen Marek could beat any other lightsaber duelist in a fight.
  3. Umm... the Kas'im I remember got his ass handed to him on a silver platter... After almost killing Bane... Which brings me to my point... the best was Bane... no contest... he could break Windu... Darth Bane is the most powerful Sith Lord in Star Wars, but he isn't as good at lightsaber combat as Kas'im was, though he did own Kas'im in a lightsaber duel using the force.
  4. Umm... the Kasim I remember got his ass handed to him on a silver platter... After almost killing Bane... Which brings me to my point... the best was Bane... no contest... he could break Windu... Darth Bane is the most powerful Sith Lord in Star Wars, but he isn't as good at lightsaber combat as Kas'im was, though he did own Kas'im in a lightsaber duel using the force.
  5. As far as who would win in a lightsaber fight using force augmented powers, the list goes like this; 1. Galen Marek 2. Luke Skywalker (New Jedi Order Series) 3. Darth Bane 4. Yoda 5. Palpatine 6. Kas'im 6. Count Dooku 7. Anakin Skywalker (ROTS) 8. Darth Maul 9. Mace Windu 10. Obi-Wan 11. General Grevious As far as who would win in a lightsaber fight without any use of the force what-so-ever (no force augmented lightsaber acrobatics, no force lightning, no force push, no force repulse, no force wave and not even jedi reflexes) the list goes like this; 1. General Greivous (Mechanical structure and ability to wield four lightsabers) 2. Kas'im (Dual Lightsabers and Skill) 3. Mace Windu (Strategic Abilities in a sword fight) 4. Darth Maul (Double-Balded Lightsaber) 5. Count Dooku (Skill and a high-tech lightsaber) 6. Darth Bane (Skill) 7. Anakin (ROTS) 8. Obi-Wan 9. Galen Marek 10. Palpatine (Advanced age) 11. Yoda (Inferior size and a tiny lightsaber with no ability to maneuver in combat)
  6. Actually I think I was wrong, the only reason Mace Windu managed to beat Darth Sidious was due to him using the room to his advantage. Both Yoda and Palpatine were superior to Mace Windu in lightsaber combat with their force augmented acrobatic lightsaber skills.. So naturally the first thing Mace Windu did when fighting Palpatine was to enter a narrow hallway where he could not be out maneuvered by in lightsaber combat. And then when they left the hallway Palpatine sure enough started out maneuvering Mace Windu by going air-born with acrobatic flips, so Mace forced him to the window, where he could not flip without falling out, and that's how he beat Palpatine. So the greatest lightsaber was actually Kas'im.
  7. Well, in my defense I am a noob, and noobs find old topics and reply to them.
  8. Tulak Hord has zero feats, we haven't seen him and the only thing we know for sure is that he has a tomb on Korriban. Kas'sim on the other hand, has feats.
  9. Mace Windu by far. Although both Count Dooku and Yoda bested him in his early years, he became the single most skilled lightsaber duelist in the galaxy once he refined his skills in Vapaad. Mace Windu defeated Darth Sidious in lightsaber combat even quicker than Yoda did.. He was also confident enough in his abilities to confront Count Dooku and Jango Fett without any help from other Jedi what-so-ever. Both Yoda and Darth Sidious were far more powerful than Mace Windu, but in a lightsaber fight, they'd both lose, they would need to augment their lightsaber skills with destructive force techniques in order to beat Mace Windu, something that Galen Marek learned to do, which made him far more ferocious in combat than any other Jedi/Sith in history.
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