[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

Yet, you have all this with free MMO's... And you will have it with the next expansion.... But let's not get started on this because it is neverending story But no, that's not it.

 

It is as simply as this: if I want to play with someone, i'll get out with my friends. A game is singleplayer (or coop, if you push me), not gathering with some random....

 

If I paly a game, it is I who has to complete it, not force me to chat with someone else hoping to find someone willing to party to become even possibly to success in next mission.

[TSL Restoration Project: The Phantom Deadline, READ FIRST POST BEFORE POSTING.]

Good luck for you PC KOTORS. Hope TSLRP won't need as many patches as K2!

 

lol Hopefully when it is released it will be practically bugfree. Here's where the delay comes from...

[Does anyone else suffer from SWCS]

Yeah, it's called curiosity for the prophans, and it comes when you like a specific fantasy universe (SW in this case) and want to find out more through novels, games and material related to it and expanding it. usually comes with discussions of philosophy, politics, ect on said 'verse.

 

I think pretty much everyone suffers it in major or minor degree...

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

Isn't that what we're telling for years now

We have to have hope that KOTOR3 is coming and that it's a good game

 

hope is last thing to be lost, that we say in catalan... So, unless someone officially confirms there will be no KOTOR 3 nomatterwhat, let's keep it alive...

[Telos academy computer]

I think your memory is playing with you.

 

There is a workbench there, and a medlab. Has been so in 1.0, will be so in 1.0b.

 

Um... It could be, since i've never replayed a 1.0 K2 since it's release... but I'd sware that there was a "circle of interaction" in one of the computers in that room...

 

Also it could be what you said. Considering the dialog with T3 there...

 

Thanks anyway

[Telos academy computer]

I think your memory is playing with you.

 

There is a workbench there, and a medlab. Has been so in 1.0, will be so in 1.0b.

 

Um... It could be, since i've never replayed a 1.0 K2 since it's release... but I'd sware that there was a "circle of interaction" in one of the computers in that room...

 

Also it could be what you said. Considering the dialog with T3 there...

 

Thanks anyway

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

Sad But True-Metallica.

 

I believe it wont be developed by Obsidian which is a bummer, but it was been "confirmed" that it is a Bio/LA which pretty much means EA/LA. But like Jediphile said Star Wars games dont usually come 5 times a year the are frequent and usually follow the release of another.

 

Well, all we know about is of a MMO in the KOTOR 'verse, not K3. That is held with maximum secrecy? Possible. That a MMO CAN be K3? Unlikely but plausible. That is in development? Possible. Hell, it is even possible that K3 is even packed for release next christmas for all that we know.

 

I guess we'll just have to wait and see (how strange, huh? ) how Force unleashed works out and how the MMO works out and wait some more for official confirmation that K3 is indeed in development and will bring closure (an actual end) to the saga.

 

Let's hope for it, at least.

[Telos academy computer]

So... I've been wandering. I remember on my first playthrough that on the same room where T3 is held in the Taris Academy there was an accessible computer were you had to make something. With the subsequent patches it was eliminated. What was it's purpose? Did it have something to do with the locked navigation computer removed quest?

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

This is insane, I've been looking very often (about every day) on this website:

http://www.lucasartsbioware.com/

 

to see any update about a KOTOR III, now I know it's not that game because a Bioware employee said it before. Seriously?! Still no update, it has soon like passed a year. They can at least say something.

 

*grumbles*

 

KOTOR III is fading away for each day. Not good

 

Well, no one said K3 was being made by Bio. The confirmation must come either from Lucas Arts and/or the developer in question. Be it Obsidian, Bioware or whomever is making it.

 

The direction you gave it is only for projects regarding to Bio AND LA. If K3 is made by, let's say, Demiurge Studios, it won't appear on that direction but on LA's page or on Demiurge's page. If it is made by Bio, then yes it will appear on that page.

[If you just became a Star Wars Author, what would you write about?]

While the very well defined Dark Vs Light is quite good - because it still allows some depth of character. In the end however it's somewhat restrictive as characters usually end up as either good, evil / fallen, redeemed or stubborn neutral.

 

I haven't read any SW books or fanfics - so I have no idea if I'm being completly unoriginal here.

 

But I would take an approach of looking at the history and nature of The Force and it's effect on Galactic history. From the perspective of a scholar looking for evidence on what The Force actually is, while of course being blind to it. It would be like a history book of the Star Wars universe and the mythology of Jedi/Sith, seen from the historical point of view.

 

Looking at the effects Bane, Vader, The Mandelorian Wars etc had on "modern" Galactic history. Like some scholars today look at the effect Alexanders reign had.

 

In a way this is what K2 tries to make. I see K2 as a study of the Force through the eyes of someone that has been ripped off it and gradually re-aquires the affinity with it. Partially, I believe this is one of the reasons (or the main one) because K2 was so criticized: introducing a bit of philosophy in the SW 'verse, looking it a bit more deeply than usually.

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

A little nudging back in the direction of Kotor 3 would seem in order, yes.

 

I like four party members better than three, if only for the banter possibilities.

 

Absolutely! I can see jealous backstabbing when Revan, Exile, Atton and Bastila gather... Seriously though, if a four member party was implemented would be easier to choose your companions. I always missed someone else to complete the party in both games: in K1 I usually carried Canderous and HK or Juhani and Jolee, and I missed either Jolee or T3 (for the first group) and Canderous or HK for the second goup; in K2 I carried either Kreia and Mira or Kreia and Mandalore. Occasionally Brianna or Visas. With four characters I could have my most used chars in the same party...

 

But it has to be very well balanced... I mean, if an army of three delivered havoc and utter-doom to any battlefields they were, imagine an army of four. It would be the damn apocalypse!

[Color of Lightsaber.]

The game is racist since there's no black lightsabers.

 

Or white ones for that matter!

 

I demand equality!

 

There are sylver crystals that are in the practice white, and I recall reading somewhere of a black lightsaber that didn't make it to the programming. it would be cool though...

 

<Insert Name>: "I am the one who brings the black death... kneel before me!"

 

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

The game's story as it ended in Frozen Throne was retconned and continued in entirely different form in WoW.

 

In WoW there's a lot storyline missions (and more comes with updates) that directly continue the main story. Now with upcoming Wrath of the Lich King gamers are going to get in the epic battle with Arthas and his armies, the biggest looming threat and obvious main plot point left after Frozen Throne.

 

Exactly: thae main plot left AFTER the frozen Throne. Wow doesn't add per se new factions or world places. It is all a continuation of WC3. You don't introduce a new threat in WoW: it is just the continuation of the conflict on the perspective of a "foot soldier" instead of the one leading the armies, that would be WC4.

 

The thing is if WC4 ever gets made (and WoW has already postponed it with many years if not for forever) - I'd like to have sauce for that "I've heard" stuff - it'll have to start from entirely new point, maybe even hundred years forward from WC3.

 

As always, it depends on how it is handled. But WC4 can perfectly be settled in the defeat of Arthas. You being the one leading the armies of the Alliance or the horde. You just cannot have this sort of closure in a MMO. WC is not about the fighting itself (like WoW), but of the war effort: resources, preparing armies, and yes, making the battles, but not of a single men: of the whole battalion, of the whole army.

 

In Kotor franchise that equals to restarting whole franchise.

 

Unless the MMO focuses on Mandalorian Wars (which is less likely for couple of reasons) it'll take place in True Sith war, which is essentially core of K3.

 

If K3 later gets made it is entirely new game with different timeline, characters etc.

 

Again, if this MMO is held during hte K3 "war", you will be either a foot soldier, a low rank officer or a base jedi (don't know if padawan or jedi knight). In other words, an anonimous fighter. you can't be The One, the Leader of the armies. There can be only one Mandalore, if you get my point.

 

K3 will be about the leader, not the base soldiers.

[If you just became a Star Wars Author, what would you write about?]

Actually, I think I'd write about Revan in unknown space. Hmm...

 

Revan took a wrong turn and landed outside of the galaxy, in Dark Space, He was allergic to seafood.

 

Heh... Post-traumatic stress of the events of manaan? Didn't know that huge firazan shark was called Sovereign.... And this engages with the theory of Trask being sucked by a wormhole and left in the Citadel...

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

From what i've heard warcraft IV may come along. Or at least blizzard has said that IF the team wants to make it, they can make it.

 

But my point stays valid. WoW is not Warcraft IV.

[KotoR 3: Ideas, Suggestions, Discussion, Part 25]

However, at least we know this doesn't replace K3 entirely.

 

Nor partially nor entirely. It doesn't replace it. Period. if you are used to drink lemon juice and suddently you are given an orange juice, it just isn't the same eventhough both are citric juices. K3 (if done) will be a single player RPG that will either expand the lifespan of the series or close the triology. You can't just get the Age of Empires licence, make a RPG and say "Here! There you have AoE IV". It would spoil the saga. you can make a RPG BASED on that 'verse, but not the continuation of the saga.

 

With this MMO (I hope) happens the same. It isn't K3. It is just a game based on it's 'verse. Like WoW with warcraft. It isn't Warcraft IV, can't be it because they are two different kinds of game with different public and different goals.

[NPC Light Mastery.]

Haven't tried to go for a Sith lord yet. Maybe the LS runthrough is more polished than the DS...

[Color of Lightsaber.]

I like very much double silver, but in this playthrough i'm going Silver on the main and viridian on the other. If I find a pair for either I might make a change though...

 

To the OP, i'd say also to put in the lightsaber the colour you like most. All this of a colour according to the class is just nonsense... I even go red lots of times without being DS (i just like the looks of it)

[Lightsaber colour question]

There is another fix one in nar shada, with that rodian merchant. When completed the missions (I don't remember if one or both), i always find a silver crystal, and (I don't remember well) a viridian crystal.

[TSL Restoration Project: The Phantom Deadline, READ FIRST POST BEFORE POSTING.]

So.. how's resolution of the major bug posted in mantis?

[My Crazy Dream]

I'll have to explain some of mine some day of these...

[Manaan Hotel: Quest?]

So if I'm to take the moral choice, I must hinder the Republic war effort against the Sith by denying it a vital resource of healing essential to saving the lives of soldiers defending the Republic across the galaxy from the Sith's domination?

But what kind of society are you promoting if you condone a cold-blooded murder when it suits your purposes (or when it is done by one of your own).

 

What society am I condoning if I interpret my moral choices so strictly that the Republic might lose the war as a result? Am I not indirectly condoning the Sith, if I do that?

 

Don't get me wrong - letting Sunry off the hook is absolutely not fair. He did the crime and deserves punishment. But he was being manipulated the sith, who did fabricate evidence to incriminate him. And if he hadn't killed that Elassa, she would have done something nasty to him somewhere down the road. Clearly having him exposed is exactly what the sith want, and in and of itself that should give (and did) give me pause as to what choice to make. Having some overidealistic lightsider reveal the entire thing would make the sith cheer, since it plays right into their hands. You cannot be blind to that. Good means neither stupid nor ignoring something inconvenient. There are choices when you must do a little evil.

 

The republic hiding proof has nothing to do with the Sith inventing them? If Sunry was minimally smart he should have reported to the ambassador. They would have arranged everything for an "accident". Or at least for Sunry's hiding/protection.

 

Take another example. Some terrorists or whatever are about to detone a nuclear bomb in a major city, but you've captured one of them, only he won't talk. Do you torture him? If you do, it's immoral. There is no question doing that is wrong. But if you don't, thousands, maybe millions of innocent people will die. Do you just ignore that so you can hold onto your moral high ground? Is THAT ethical?

 

What is not ethical is having created the conditions for terrorism to appear. That said, there are ways of having that information without torture: through persuasion and psicology. You maybe need a high skill, but is is surely possible. And you can detect the radiation. An atomic bomb wouldn't be a problem unless the government permits it to be one.

 

Or what if they've captured your family, and you've captured one of them. Do you torture him for the location of your family? It would be unethical to do. So what do you do? Do you let your family die rather than do a little evil? Will that comfort you when your family is dead and you know you might have been able to save them? Now, that's more personal, but the outcome is the same - innocent people will suffer and die if you decide to take the absolute moral high ground in all of these situations.

 

IF they are smart they won't touch your family. They have family also, and there is no more dangerous man than one seeking vengeance with nothing to loose... Besides, what motives should they have to touch your family unless you are a politician or a high command (police or army, it's the same)?

 

Nothing justifies torture.

[New at the forums]

Hello, and welcome to the forums.

 

In Kotor2 the attributes bonuses you get from crystals, robes etc. are so huge they dwarf your original stats in importance in combat. Your dexterity looks a bit low, but items can increase that. I'd suggest sticking with one weapon until you can get all the two-handed fighting feats.

 

The best way to boost your defence is to play as a male character and hang around the Handmaiden a lot.

 

You dirty moderator you! Playing cards with Handmaiden your a evil one.

 

 

No wonder she doesn't want to play pazaak with poor old Atton... They play Strip-pazaak! And she is dying for that exile that is charismatic enough to manage to make her take out her clothes but too shy to declare his feelings to her...

 

Anyway, and back on topic, the stats look good for me, and you can add to defence inverting a few points on dex (through items or actual points, as you wish), and through force powers. Enjoy!

 

PD: welcome to the forums

[NPC Light Mastery.]

Bear in mind that at least the jedi master and I think also the sith lord prestige classes have a unique ability to "push" the alignments of companions towards the extremes - I have sometimes ending up with companions being closer to LS mastery than the exile was because of this ability. So if your preference is for other prestige classes, then your experience may well be different.

 

This explains it then. I've had masteries of Mira, Handmaiden, and Visas at least, in all my playthroughs, and since I've went in all of them as Jedi Master... That must be it. This or KSE (yes, I'm guilty... )

[My Crazy Dream]

That was a hell of a dream... The game must have absorbed you completely, since that sort of dreams are of things that you have done during the day and your subconscient is trying to process it... Or, if you believe in dream interpretation you will have a hell of a test of some sort. Maybe a known uknown, if you get my point...