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You're comparing two very different situations. Anakin is analyzing his situation and still cannot control his emotions, whereas Luke is in the spur of the moment both fighting for his life and confronting the threat of his worst nightmares come true. Not the same. Even Obi-Wan is emotional and angry upon watching Darth Maul kill Qui-Gon. Or will you claim he approached the subsequent fight with Maul with self-control and restraint? Didn't look so to me - I saw rage in Obi-Wan's eyes. You are right about that. There was defenatly anger in Ob's eyes when Dart Maul killed Qui-Gon. This is probably why he defeated Darth Maul. No, the jedi just try to focus on other emotions like compassion and even love (though they don't pursue it). The Vulcans bury any and all emotions under self-control, unlike the jedi and sith. Well i might have been a bit more clearer there i didn't mean they surpressed all emotions But they do bury most emotions deeply. Jedi tend to see/apprauch things more logically and rationally. The sith do not have higher ideals to hold onto, only themselves. It gives them power, but also makes them overconfident. That's a big part of why they frequently fail against the jedi. The other is that they cannot cooperate or trust each other - every sith is ultimately alone, because other jedi try to kill them for being evil, while other sith try to kill them to take their place and power. Thus they know no trust. But the jedi do and can cooperate, which is another pretty big advantage for the jedi. They do have "higher Ideals" they just are opposite of the LS. They want to become the strongest and most powerful sith in the galaxy. Thats why the apprentice kills its master, to show he is more powerful or eliminate a more powerful sith and thus gain gaining places on the "power ladder".

Kreia? Not talk? Unlikely... Well i gained some influence again when Visas came aboard so she is "on talking terms" again But Aton's comment on her is right yeah

I'i playing a sentinel/sith lord and I'm getting +3 Dex and +50 force points.

I'm a dark sider but that wont differ to much. but i'll be sure to de-equip it from my saber and talk to kreia. Funny that she never mentions this. She only says it grows in power and thats it. Ah well of to oberon. To get my "evil" crystal and the to Dantooine for my personal one. Then i will rip Nar Shadaa into pieces. I only fear that Keira wont tell me much anymore as she grow tired of my cruelty

That's debatable. Dont get me wrong he was wrong in every way! And the cruelty and horror he brought forth should never be forgotten. But lets stay at Starwars as WW2 is a whole different subject i merely mentioned it as arrogance is a failure you see on all evil persons.

No, because he stops himself. Nobody is above passion, especially not the jedi, and you neglect to point out that Vader goaded Luke on by suggesting that if he would not fall to the dark side, then they could have Leia do it instead, and Vader thereby threatens the one person that Luke loves the most at that point - how would any of us react if someone threatened your loved ones? Luke's reaction is understandable. He'd have to inhuman not to be affected by that. And yet he doesn't kill Vader. He is not evil precisely because he sees just what he will become if he does kill him. As a jedi he should stand above that. I remember in part 3 anakin speaks to Yoda about his dreams where yoda says something in the line (i dont know the exact quotes) that he should pay to much attention to it as his fear for padme's death and his anger that he feels helpless are the path to the darkside. I mean from a pure human perspective you are right. If someone treathens my brother (i dont have a sister) i would bust his ass. I think anyone would who loves his brother. Obi-Wan loves Anakin like he is his brother yet he goes out to fight Anakin knowing how it would end. He didn't kill him, true but seeing how anakin was in terms of injuries he would have been better of. (one could argue that killing anakin would be the mercyfull thing to do). But the strength of the darkside is emotions the bad ones like hate and anger. They are stronger then the Light side because they give in to these emotions while the lihgt side learns more to be like Vulkans from star trek. But strength doesn't lie pure in muscle or raw power. Power is more. Most if not all martial arts are not based on muscle but on cunning and being smart. The light side is more like like that martial artist while the dark sider is more of a bodybuilder. The martial artist will always win. Often evil persons are also smart but they all have to much self esteem then that's good for them. That is why the light side always wins. They might be annoying as hell sometimes with a 'misterknowitall' attitude but they know not to underestamate their oponent while darksider do.

Light and dark side is a matter of perspective. Anakin/ Darth Vader wanted peace in the galaxy so his motives are good. However the means he used where 'debatable' to say the least. Does that make Darth Vader evil? I think not as at the end he turned to the light side by rescuing his son and killing Sidious. Unfortunatly by doing so i sacrificed himself. While i would consider Sidious to be Lawfull Evil i would say Vader would be more towards neutral then very evil. He is only a "bully' cause he fears sidous. Luke wanted to kill Vader with great passion in the end battle doesn't that make him evil? If the dark side is stronger why does light prevail? Simple actually. The dark side is to arrogant because they are stronger. The light side "respects" the dark side and is aware of the power and how to "approach" it. This gives the light side an edge over the dark side. Sidous is an example of a sith that was very cunning but he to in the end underestimated the power of the Light side and thus turning vader against him. This "arrogance" is often if not always characteristic of evil people. Hitler would also be a good example he was smart, no doubt about it, but his arrogance took great part in his defeat.

AH ok i will try to remember that.

I just read this in a topic: How do you do that? I never seem to recall getting any dialog option to do so. Do i need to speak with her every time i lvl up? I always assumed it was an automated process. Thnx. (i am tempted to go to Dantooine before Nar shadaa)

I think it's to late to make Bao-Dur a jedi since i my influence on him dropped already and im close to the 75% DS. I have just landed on Duxn on my way to Oberon. Since i have never had haharr as a party member so i am going to keep him. I always had trouble in the temple wen we need to split up so i am going to use him for that. I only wished (which also sounds more logical) That 100% dark would give +3 str in stead of +3 Dex. After Onderon i will visit Nar Shadaa so i doubt i will get enough chances to gain influence. I will just stay dark and see where it takes me. Aton was ok as jedi so i might turn him. UNLESS kan Haharr be made a Jedi? I think he would a powerfull Marauder... ps. What is that loop you are talking about? Not intend to use but i am curious (as i also have to make sure i'm 75% dark at lvl 15 but that should be easy enough.)

Yeah i guess that makes sense. Well at least i managed to corrupt 1 member so far. Kreia doesn't seem to like me to much But i just met bao-Dur so i have a large amount of corruption to do.

Is it normal that my (and Aton's) face changes. I am replaying the game and this time im going sentinel-Sith lord (so taking the dark path) and i noteced both our face changes. I didnt see anything like that happening when i played light side.

sorry sorry I am so stupid...... I completely forgot to visit Koriban This one can be locked down.

The other quest is Lost Jedi. I loaded an old savegame from before i meet my last jedi master in the palace. Still Kreia won't give me the right convo option PFFFF dammn dit obsidian give us a bugy game

Well i have done everything, telos has fuel, the merchant routes have been set. Been to Sith temple on Duxxn moon. Only have 2 open Journals, Redemption and another one (can't remeber which) I have spoken to all jedi and they should meet me on Dantooin. However i dont get the convo option on Keira that says we need to go to the Jedi Enclave. Is there something i missed?

The first one is notoriously bugged, I only completed it once (out of several playthroughs). The second one is unsolvable because of a bug in a dialogue script. There are fixes for those two bugs on the net though (try team gizkas website). I installed those and played the game through again, this time the two criminals and the fuel for Telos quests were solvable. Not sure if it will fix the quests retroactively though :sad: Well i tryed to get to the restoration zone again but i can't. (my ship isn't stolen anymore so i don't need a different ship that crashes here ) Ill try Team gizka's website as the fuel should be retroactively, i only need to talk to someone who is always there (the leutenant) This is the second time i play the game, guess i got lucky the first time as i got all the bounty quests. I am unsure about the fuel quest, can't recall if it was the lt. dialog or soemthign with the Hutt i did wrong. Seeing the dialog is bugged probably the first. Thnx for your reply. EDIT: I installed them but they don't seem to work retroactive

There are tw o quests: Bounty Quest, Escaped Criminals on Telos Didn't found them nor do get the option 'i allready killed them' (yes been to restoration zone) Also i cant complete the fuel quest. I have done everything that needs to be done and spoken to hutt for arangements. The leutenant just doesn't give me the option to tell him this. Any surgestions? i Just completed Nar Shaddaa and am on my way to Duxxn for a message. Is it to late now for those quests? thnx