Kahiara

Exactly. :D

Technically it's not really a step backwards or forwards. I mean, in the end we don't know how many more issues might be found, and just because the number went up because we were ignorant of them before, we are still technically in the same position, regardless of numbers... (I didn't take philosophy for a good reason, I can be quite, it doesn't matter and matter of fact ) I mean, it comes when it's done *braces self for flying objects being hurled towards her for her detached response*

Just to summarise, I decided to keep it. They said that I must have found an old link of their website as their website has been down for a few months. However even if this is true and it is an old link from a few months ago it does contradict with their, 'we haven't had a UK copy of it for over two years' lol. Ah well. As long as I get the colour manual in nice condition I will be happy. ^^

I will join you on devil's advocate for Revan. a. because I was Revan. ^^ and b. because I barely remember Nihilus being in Kotor 2... unless he's also in another game or something and that's why there is such a debate on his power... I just swear he had one scene and died.

Whooo (I don't know why but I really like that emoticon). And by the way, maybe I got some wires crossed but doesn't this happen: [NR] Kreia isn't fond of droids either - After the player has witnessed the message from Bastila/Carth, Kreia, during an entry scene, will blast T3 with some force lightning in anger since the PC seemed to have a fondness for the droids. I swear I saw Kreia force lightning T3 after getting a message from Carth and then T3 never tells me the message? I really really swear I saw that ingame?

I have attempted to guilt trip them in the email for that. And I wasn't going to show the link because I felt I'd respect their confidence (I'm too nice). But the link is, but don't have a go at them, I guilt tripped http://www.bulletsoftware.com/page/swkotor.html And refuse you are completely right! Although, I have already sent them an email, and haven't yet found a cheaper seller (the american amazon ones won't ship lol) but I am sure it would be cheaper. Also, on their page you will see

Thank you very much for clearing that up with me And I got a reply from them, this is rich, I swear they have a go at me: Many thanks for your email There has not been a UK edition of this game for over 2 years. The only game currently available is from the USA and we have to import them from the USA which is expensive for us. As you correctly point out, the US packaging is slightly larger then the old UK dvd cases. However, we (and everyone else) have only sold the US edition, for the last two years. It would be impossible for anyone to do anything else (until Lucas Arts manufacture more for the UK, which is unlikely at the moment). We would state "This is the genuine United Kingdom version - not a cheap import" for Knights of the Old Republic 2 which is still available. Hopefully, it is not written anywhere with Knights of the Old Republic 1. ((UM NO, IT IS ADVERTISED ON YOUR WEBSITE AS THAT)) We have sent you a coloured manual. Again, it is from an earlier US edition (about a year ago) all current manuals are black and white. There is no difference (other than the packaging) between the US and UK editions and as you can see from our feedback on Amazon and Ebay, no one has ever been unhappy with the game. ((They threaten me I swear there with reputation, when they are in the wrong)) However, If you are at all unhappy with the game we will refund it for you. Best regards Well I guess I will keep the game, but I still feel a bit annoyed at this... just the way they rant at me for asking the question. *sigh*

Oh ok ^^ I just assumed that was the point of the different CDs, eg. US and UK. So US cds are then simply meant to work in the US, and UK in the UK?

Ok well both versions seem to spell colour, color. So I guess I'm satisfied. The weird thing is, the way the manual and case have the same number and R1, but the cd has a slightly different one and no R1... I guess I can live with that ^^ Thank you guys for all your help - I guess both versions of the game are the same? So it shouldn't matter?

Ok well - I realsied th defense thing later lol but... It definately is US. It says color. I am trying the save on my other computer which still has the UK version installed and the UK disc, but can't be reinstalled (scratched cd2). If it says colour, then I shall complain to them. Also, I didn't want the Best of PC, I just wanted Kotor, hence the not finding it in shops. And they did not specify if it would be UK or US on amazon, but it was amazon UK, and on their website they do say UK, but that is their website that only accepts paypal and is

Not one that sold it no. Kotor 2 is a lot easier to find than Kotor 1. But thanks for the encouragement. T_T

Words are spelt wrongly (my perspective). Eg. defense/ should be defence. It says R1. The box is similar to the American Best of Star Wars games thing and the other thick normal Kotor for USA. And something else I noticed in dialog earlier today but I thought nothing of it. I know it doesn't seem major but it means something to me... Could I comment on how the person was selling on amazon UK and therefore it should be assumed it is a UK version? Should I mention the website in conjunction? Do you think they can reseal products? I mean I have barely laid a hand on their game - I'd even been using my old play disc. (no, language isn't relevant to play disc, before you suggest that). :S

Ok, if anyone is in UK: Please go to the character attributes page, does it say, DEFENCE, spelt in english? I can't test my old version as CD doesn't work, that's why I bought a new version. Now we've established that this is some weird (no offence) American version, do you think I could ask for a refund? I have opened it... Or I could ask for an exchange if they have a genuine english version? In my defence, they can't argue I didn't post it back asap as it's still a bank holiday before post starts again, so I guess I have a week from Tuesday, as I recieved it on Saturday, therefore posting on Saturday would have made no difference, if that makes sense... I know this forum isn't for advice completely but you guys are seriously my only hope :S I don't want to end up with 3 versions of the game. Am I allowed to claim that because the seller on their website says it's genuinely UK, and they are on the UK amazon that it is in my right to return it saying it was not what I was expecting? It is unsealed now but perfect condition and the two issues - manual, (but they said they would send me a spare in colour), and more importantly, american. :S I am chronicaly unlucky. I even got a debit card in debt once. I have a bad credit rating probably, of

No I couldn't have. ^^ And I contacted the seller, I bought if of someone on amazon, BUT, they are part of a company and they have a big website etc. They said that it's what the new games all have, but the CDs do work well. They said they would send me a coloured manual because they have some they have collected over time there? Hmm, well... The game works, so I guess I'm happy... it was just weird with the manual and the case of the game being thick with a gold size as I've seen it think on the net but no gold... Oh, Darth Mortis, I'm in the UK. AND OMG, (sorry you saying that prompted me to check something) I've realised the R1 on the CDS must stand for region 1... that is SO annoying too. I feel like crying, I'm not being irrational but you don't understand the stress little things like to inflict on me. NOTHING ever goes smoothly. Eg. I bought Kotor twice, and so many problems... I bought Baldur's gate in duplicate for essentially every items and have issues. *takes a deep breath* Ok, so we've established it's American but I bought it off amazon.co.uk and on the seller's website they say "This is the genuine United Kingdom version - not a cheap import" - However I bought from that same seller linked to that shop with the same address, but on the amazon thing all it says is "FACTORY SEALED - DISPATCHED IMMEDIATELY BY FIRST CLASS POST (AIR MAIL IF YOU ARE OUTSIDE THE UNITED KINGDOM)". Should I have expected a UK version? Please help guys, I know this is not entirely relevant to Kotor 2 but I'm 17, just spent all my money buying the game, can't deal with business things like amazon and don't have a clue if I can ask for a refund etc. As I have opened it, but is it what I expected to order? T_T I really have to ask why nothing in my life ever runs smoothly. :S What do I do? :S

Ok, I had a lot of issues with Kotor, so I rebought it and I recieved the game today. It was sealed, but it is in a box two times the normal DVD version. On the side, between the front and the back, it is gold. Inside, the manual is BLACK AND WHITE, and does not match the number on the CDs, unlike my old version did. Is it meant to be this way?! Please help me <3 ------------- Edit: I'm realyl sorry I just realised this was for Kotor 2. I just associated the forum with the whole Kotor plotline... I don't know how to delete this but if anyone could PM me if they do know as I need to know if I should try to return it or if it was meant to be this way (what concerns me is the manual).

Amateur VOs, where do I sign up? (joke )

I think is involved in the creation of the HK army, I've only ever had enough influence over him once or twice to get him to spill the beans on his origin in the game, but I think it's pretty clear. Ah I see, ^^, sorry I just got completely lost and never found much about him, I never had influence. And I think I was trying to just finish the game as quickly as possible so my computer wouldn't crash. I just thought he was meant to be an evil robot and we were meant to like him and his charm because we liked HK47... I dunno, me and him didn't bond. ^^

And why were the robots chasing us for again? (the HK ones). I will play the game again... I know I sound so noobish and stupid but I really think with all my computer problems and the cut stuff I got so confused and it all seemed so random.

I've really opened up a can of worms lol. All these theories sound really good and possible. I hope we do find out which it is though in Kotor 3. I really like your idea of T3 being sent to find Kreia. And whilst T3 looked for Kreia they both came accross the Exile or so, who they thought could help Revan better maybe? By the way, not to be dense, but at the end of Kotor 2 does your character (PC) go to the Outer Rim? And do they go in search of Revan/ have I missed something really obvious and got it wrong or got it right and just been really dim... (I just didn't understand Kotor 2 but I really think my computer crashes had a lot to do with it because it really made it harder for me to follow the plot when it would crash very often ruining the flow).

Revan didn't send T3. Wow! I have to try that alignment now Thanks Although

That's why I thought the robots were sent off. ^^ And with T3 and HK47 I never heard everything as despite my efforts I could never get the last repair for T3 and I wasn't evil enough for HK47, lol. Maybe i misread something wrong aaaages ago, but, in the mod team gizka is working on weren't they going to make it possible for you to hear all the information by a certain stage in the plot despite influence, so that by a point where you should know it anyway you can? But it might have been a suggestion or something, I can't remember where I read it.

Note the words ....game is beyond the scope of the project at the moment. *at the moment* leaving a little hint open that it is not impossible Sure, if they're given (or acquire) the source code, tools and funding that obsidian had at their disposal, it might be possible to implement all that too... Given how long it has taken them to restore the content that was cut but still there I really can't see them trying to add the droid planet. I think there is a hint it is not impossible, but I don't think it would be very probable or accessible. Didn't another group work on it though and get relatively far? I think they stopped though. It's crazy how much was cut. I hope KOTOR3 has nothing cut or unfinished.

But technically 13 are features, so in a way isn't it 8, because it will be publically released when all non-feature things are implemented? :D Although, even though the numbers are low, as they say it doesn't indicate when it will be released as won't people be playing the game through to check for any glitches and if they find any... But still, excitement

Wow, thanks It does make more sense now! It's so complex, or maybe just on a deeper level, but it all completely threw me. I'm really looking forward to replaying the game now. ^^ *does a happy little dance as she now gets what was going on*

I officially love these people restoring a lot of the cut content. I think Lucas Arts or someone should recognise what they're doing as their fixing their mistakes. And about the bug count going I know it going down doesn't mean it was a countdown to release but it meant we were on the path to it *suspense at not knowing*. Gah, stupid people releasing the game early.