Riftworm

Rather, both KOTORs were designed so that the primary option was to control one character while your companions ran on autopilot; the other, slghtly less supported option was to pause and control them all with autoqueues. The camera and so forth made it difficult to control everyone in real-time, which was my point. It was exactly the same as NWN1; it wasn't designed to control a large party like you did with IE, it was designed for pause-and-cumbersome-control or letting them autopilot. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Unfortunately the action queues didn't work, because the moment you switched characters the AI would overrule your choices. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I remember finding it somewhat inconsistent. Sometimes the AI would override, but other times not. The thing is though, is that NWN2 strikes me as not being a whole lot different, so I'm not sure if it should be held to a different standard than KOTOR or NWN1. I don't think the original NWN is really a great example of this. I still found the OC to be rather restrictive. I never really felt like there was much random exploring to do. The Fallouts, or the original Baldur's Gate are much, much better examples. Not that I minded it in NWN, as I typically don't care for random exploring. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> NWN1 had this, but it also simultaneously allowed for wandering or random killing. If you needed to be taken by the hand and guided along (like NWN2 does exclusively) you could, but you could also stray 20 maps over and into some weird forest as well. That sense of exploration that's missing. It's the "openess" That Josh was talking about. If it doesn't bother you from being guided along, then no need worry about it if it's implemented. NWN1 serviced both types of preferences. I just wish NWN2 was the same in that regard.

Right but like in NWN1, you got your mission at home base kinda deal, and if you chose to go on it you did, if not.. you didn't. If you chose to wander and mutilate chickens and farmers you were free to do so and shifte your alignment as a result. , or if you chose to go exploring and ran into trouble that was your own fault. There was that sense of discovery and you could never be sure what lurked beyond. I enjoyed how I was able to discover side quests on my own without being told about them. KotoR II was a bit more free that way, but still all "Obsidian" about plotting useless NPC's for some reason. Just so..Disney..

"We"? "People"? If you were editing a Wikipedia article you'd have been banned long ago for willfully avoiding a neutral point of view to conjure unsubstantiated "consensus" to justify your own opinions, which is decribed as hearsay, to couch personal opinion in vague or indirect syntax. If by"people" you mean only three in this thread that have been vocal detractors of my posts for a long time now, you need to be more specific. Because as we know, four others in here who are also "people", were content to maturely discuss the topic. The thread is not pointless, but your explanation of what we already know is. The questions remain unanswered.

Don't speak for "most folks", because you can't. Speak for yourself, let the other two in your band of Riftworm -thread detractors speak for themselves. I earlier stated I care less if the anti-Riftworm 3 man coalition do or don't take me seriously, I pointed out you could run along if you weren't goint to stay on topic. Junai has a point. Let patch support and Atari be the topic, not me. this thread is about patch support, not your bias towards me, and inability to keep pertinent.

Clearly brought what on myself? Your inability to discuss this topic and refrain from digression to an unrelated post? I told you what you can run along and do if you can't handle the topic at hand. Thre is nothing "fanatical" about this thread, it seems you want there to be really bad though.

An excellent current bioware topic on the slow erosion of Fantasy with censorship : http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewt...31843&forum=109 ^

Yet blue, angshuman, and Crashgirl all seem to be discussing the topic fine before you and kirottu started yet again derailing the thread topic, and before Gromnir hopped on the bandwagon to start including personal discussion. What War? What army? What on earth are you talking about? This thread topic is a question about Atari support for the franchise. Nothing else. I'm sorry you got all bent out of shape and couldn;t control your emotions that someone else didn't like the state of NWN2 in another thread. Is that what you wanted to hear? Are you done with the irrelevance now?

Your biased, vitriolic, accusational, non objective and offensive descriptions aside, those quotes aren't mine but here's one you can use directly from me -> "Here are some fair and reasonable questions I'd like to ask and discuss as blue and others seem to be doing, and If you can't maturely discuss the content you are presented with, without digressing to unrelated threads from the past, and find yourself regressing into some personal debate about me, perhaps you'd be better off not participating in this thread until you feel you can." EDIT: Gromnir - I'm not looking for a fanclub, and could care less about those that think I need to apologize for my perspective on NWN2.

This is the reason why I bother with Riftworm, Sargy. He

This is the reason why I bother with Riftworm, Sargy. He

This is the reason why I bother with Riftworm, Sargy. He

This is so far removed from any thread relevancy or personal accuracy that all I can say is : :crazy:

Sweet thx for putting this where no one will ever see it! :joy: