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Shadowstrider
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Hey everyone - thought I'd stop by
Just to echo what Mags said - liking the software
I really like this software too. I hope that it lasts.As usual, my posts go largely ignored...
The forum software is invisionboard, the php improvement over the old CGI ikonboards.
Invisionboard is the most stable forum software I've ever used. I recomend it to all my clients.
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This is so childish. Simply ask the moderator WHY you were warned. Then contact "The Guildmaster."
Stop spamming the forums with inane question which you could easily have checked by clicking the link to the moderation team.
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Don't be a crybaby, no one respects a crybaby.
You're crying about usermods coming from Iplay/BIS/Bio...
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I think time has been good on magical volo. I have followed his progress quite viciously, and he has quite matured since then. I would honestly say he would make a wonderful mod - he is now a better person.
"A step in the right direction does not take you from the swamp."
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Weird... My Sentinel didn't even have force speed. Didn't bother with it as I wore armour. Hmm..
Relevance?
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I find Megatron's bias overrides his rationale. Not to mention, they're often short, and not well thought out(due to his biases), which is contrary to what you said you wanted.
They may not be that well thought out, but try reading into his posts instead? Don't be an idiot and take everything at face value, that's all. There's a lot of wisdom in his posts.
LOL@atoga, its a waste of time to be on message boards in the first place.A board like this, anyway. Hence this board's suckiness. I take it this board is a total waste of time?
I SHALL REPENT AND HEED THE WISDOM OF BIAS! OH YES...
No.
How can something be wise, and not well thought out.
Reminds me of something someone said in debate in highschool.
"Thats like saying STDs are good, because they're proven good."
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I didn't say you would miss 25% of the time with a consular/sentinel. I said the +5 to BAB means the guardian has 25% more of a chance to hit.BTW, your math is way off. +5 BAB does NOT translate into hitting 25% more of the time. I don't know how far BAB goes for different characters nor do I know the AC for late game enemies, but I do know my Sentinel didn't miss 1 of every 4 attacks (except maybe vs Malak, but I wouldn't even bet on that). Also the two extra damage per hit is fairly useless in the late game.I don't know how you can say 2 additional damage a round is useless... especially since if you're only making 1 attack a round I cannot see you beating uber-cheesed Malak. Its +2 damage per ATTACK. If you have a double-bladed saber, 2 weapons you have 2 attacks. If you use flurry, you get another, at an expense to attack rolls(where the +5 BAB helps). If you use speed, you get an additional attack(or is it 2, at master speed? I forget). If you're using all of those, you would have 4-5 attacks, which is 8-10 additional damage a round, not 2.
Here's the kicker: You can use your force powers more often and they are more effective which makes combat easier. With a lot of skills you can often find a way around combat (and not only by hacking) which also makes the game easier. That's called balance...Assuming that the consular cannot/won't use the same console to the same effect. Besides, the sentinel only gets 1 point more per level, and since computer use isn't a class skill(unless I'm mistaken), the difference is neglible. It goes back to, the fact that skills are not necessary, while combat IS, and force powers are(if you beat the game without a single force power, I am very, very, very, very impressed, I could never have beaten Malak without force speed.).
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Nice to see ya JE.Hello. I just saw The Return of the King today, boy is that an amazing movie.
Your taste in movies sucks. You're a ****head. Go to your den and wrap your lips around a revolver. K THX BYE
Hi.
This might be the funniest reply to anything, ever.
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Sentinel is not balanced because it relied on skill points to balance out itself with the other jedi classes. Since the skills system is unecessary, skills are not balanced. Forcepowers are necessary to win(consular), and combat is necessary to win(guardian), skills are not(sentinel). Not balanced. Not opinion.
I'm pretty certain I can make a consular that won't use it's force powers and still beat the game. So that would make that class unbalanced as well.
I also think I can make a guardian without using any of the additional feats it gets and still beat the game, so by your definition that class would also be unbalanced.
If you can finish the game without using a force power(which is an improper test), I'de be surprised.
There is more to the guardian then the bonus feats. It stregth is combat, not the 2 extra feats it gets, alone. It can deal 2 more damage per hit, and hit 25% more of the time.
The consular's strength is that its force powers can be very, very difficult to resist, and used more often. Since it hits as often as the sentinel, it is as good in combat as the sentinel. What makes the sentinel poorly balanced is the reliance on the skill point for balance, and that its immunities stop growing at 12, for the most part(saves till grow).
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Sentinels get 1 skill point per level more. The MP and HP is balanced, because it is supposed to be the "intermediary" class. The have the same BAB as a consular. Other then that they get three immunities, fear, stun, and paralysis.
The immunities are the hardest to gauge. Since the average jedi level is 12-14. That ensures that they get all their immunities. However, another reason it can be seen they were not properly balanced is that the immunities stop at level 12. Another should've been issued @ 18, to follow the 1/6 levels progression. Consular and Guardians continue to get bonus abilities jedi levels higher then 12, the sentinel does not.
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What, you don't like Megatron's posts?
It would also help if you didn't hold an entire conversation over several posts (or in some cases, pages) of a thread. It's a waste of time to read.
I find Megatron's bias overrides his rationale. Not to mention, they're often short, and not well thought out(due to his biases), which is contrary to what you said you wanted.
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And, your opinion that the Sentinel is unbalanced is just that - an opinion. Nothing more; nothing less. We aren't going to get very far as long as you try your best to make your opinions seem like facts when they are not.
the afct youa re too busy flaming to admit to that just proves your point that what you say is fact is very weak.
Balance is not opinion.
"A state of equilibrium or parity characterized by cancellation of all forces by equal opposing forces."
Sentinel is not balanced because it relied on skill points to balance out itself with the other jedi classes. Since the skills system is unecessary, skills are not balanced. Forcepowers are necessary to win(consular), and combat is necessary to win(guardian), skills are not(sentinel). Not balanced. Not opinion.
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Yeah... It seems Im not the only one 'confusing" your so-called "factual opinion" Sorry, Strdier, youa re suing your opinions and pretending theya re fact. Just like your backpedalling on calling skills useless. Continue to spin as you will; but "Sentinel is the least powerful" is very much an opinion. In Scientifc terms, at best it be consdiered a theory; and not a law. (hope; i got that right since it's been awhile since I delved into scientific lingo :D )
Let's take a closer look at your quote: "I think the sentinel is just the least powerful, not the least effective."
THINK? You think? Think about something you say is supposedly fact? LMAO
The fact you use the word think is a subconcious acknowledgement that it is just an opinion that you try to guise as fact. Shame on you.
It's embarassing that your own words defy your illogical "factual opinion". Hmm..
Enjoy.
What are you talking about?
I already acknowledged that "I think the sentinel is just the least powerful, not the least effective." was opinion.
I also noted, thats not what I was debating. If you'de flip your brain on, you might realize this.
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Sure. Which is why the sentinel is not underpowered(i.e. insufficient).Unnecessary I can agree with. But as I said, that is true for most options in the game. The fact of the matter is the game isn't all that difficult and you can probably create a pretty nerfed character and still beat it.Your definition of underpowered (I saw the post containing it after I made mine) is quite different to mine. To me underpowered means less powerful than the norm. Unbalanced means either more or less powerful than the norm depending on context. In this context oviosly less powerful. So to me underpowered and unbalanced is the same.I do not equate power to balance. You could be balanced, but still underpowered(insufficient). In this case, the sentinel is not balanced with the other classes, but is still powerful enough.
I don't understand how you can say this, then say this:Now then, is the Sentinel unbalanced? I actually don't think so.Maybe the consulars are more powerful though since force powers really is what it's all about and more force points do help quite a lot. More force points makes battles easier but on the other hand skills allows you to avoid a lot of battles so it evens out a little. In the end I like skills because they give you options. And they're fun.It WOULD make sense, IF there weren't enough computer spikes in game to have 0 ranks in the skill, and still "hack da gibson" and avoid battles. If the consular has advantages, and access to the Sentinel's ability to avoid battles, hows it balanced?
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OPinions and facts, they aren't that difficult to discern. Any 8th grader could do it. Just because Volourn states his opinions without the "in your opinion" line doesn't mean he is trying to spout if off as fact. I know I certaily don't.
If you don't agree with his opinions state your own. OPinions battling each other is fun to watch.
No its not, its how trouble starts. You'de know, your friends at the codex prove this.
Debating opinion is bad news... of course this is my opinion, so lets debate it...
Espicially since "the Sentinel is the least powerful" is very much an opinion.No its not. Though I could see how you could confuse it.
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Volourn, the reason I, and almost everyone, say you almost only use opinion is because, *gasp* you do almost only use opinion. Not to mention you skirt issues with opinion, and declare it the defining factor. Its illogic.
The few times you do post "facts" to support your claims, you most often do not provide any numbers, or links, or quotes.
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OK, admittedly, useless was not the best term. I should've said, unnecesary.
As for unbalanced and underpowered, its fairly simple. Underpowered means it does not have sufficient power to win. Unbalanced means it is not equal/balanced with the other like classes.
Straight melee, is what I found to be the least effective. Since Sentinels have more force points, I found them more effective. Thats opinion, but I already said that. Least powerful, because the major draw of the sentinel is its skills. Since skills are unnecessary, the draw of the sentinel is decreased, and less powerful.
You can have something VERY powerful, but not at all effective. Likewise, you can have something VERY effective, but not all that powerful.
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Then what are we arguing about then? If you don't think it's under pwoered, and I don't think it's underpowered; what exactly is the issue?
The fact they're not balanced. Underpowered implies you cannot play through the game, because you lack the abilities. You can easily beat KotOR with a Sentinel, but they're still not balanced.
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True. Immunities don't come into play as often as I would like them to; but they do once, and awhile which is a good thing. It's the same thing with the Consualr's increased force points. taht rarely enteres the pciture. Only in 3 battles during the game did I worry about running out of force points. And, the Guardian's jump ability is rarely handy - sometimes; but rarely.
And, oh, Strider, did you know that the Guardian gets 1 maybe 2 more feats at max (if one "cheats" and power games by witholding levels) than the Sentinel. Let's also not forget the fact that a 20th level Guardian (impossible in game) has a WHOOPING (
) +5 better bab than a Guardian or Consular. Ooooooooooooooooooo That makes him that much more dangerous. And, the hit point, force points, and skills progressions basically cancel each other out, imo since all three classes have an edge there (though I admit the Sentinel gets cheated here as both hp and force points are a tad more important then skill points).Being immune totally to fear, stun, and paralysis is a big advantage. In the right circumsatnce that can be a light sbare. While the other classes are statues unable to move; the Sentinel cna go about his buisness nonchalantly.Like i said, they are all very useful. they all have their advantages and disadvantages. We could argue all day about their strnegths, and weaknesses; but they sure look balalanced. And, not just to me; but to others as well. they must be fanboys and fools too because they agree on this one particualr issue. Heh.
Enjoy.
2 feats is a big difference. Thats 2 ranks in an additional combat type.
5 BAB is 25% better hit chance.
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First off, I'm not givin' your site (I think it is anyways) any more hits. No offence; but I go to enough sites and I need to limit myself to sites who don't think their OPINIONS are facts and actually beleive other than faking it as a joke.
As for the Sentinel, his immunities are very useful. What's funny; I'm not the only one who feels that way by experience in playing the game. The immunities are as useful then the few extra points of BAB that the Guardian gets (ooo) or the extra force powers of a Consular which is nice but as stated a billion times by everyone including you only a handful of powers are sueful so that in the long run doesn't make much of a didference. Same with the increased force points since it tends to regenerate inbetween battles and I have yet to see more than 3 instances where running out of force points in battle is even an issue to be concerned with.
As for the skills issue. I amdit those are opions; but your comeback is as much an opinion. You say they are worthless skills yet I 9and others as evidenced int hat thread) have found them to ber very sueful. I, for one, don't want to carry around computer spikes in my characetr's anus. Sorry.
Bioware screwed up a lot of things in this game. i'm not debating that - skills being amongst them. Some others really screwed up things in the game are the worst invetory system ever, horrible controls, and extrememly simple combat which rarely has any tatical edge to it at all. If you wnat complaints about KOTOR from me; I can basically go all day long. However, Sentinels being "underpowered" isn't one of those complaints. Sorry. And, though your enhanced DC modifier ofa Consular's force pwoers notwithsatnding, yo've given nothing but opinions and preferences to back up your claim.
As the linked thread sshows there are people on both sides of the issue. Some who claim all 3 Jedi classes are fine as they are (I'm on that side); those who think the Sentinel is too powerful (I disagree), or those who think it's underpowered (I disagree again).
It is your opinion that the Sentinel is the least effective of the Jedi classes. That, however, doesn't make it so as I have experienced another scenario. So have others go figure. Call me a Sentinel fnaboy if you wish; but the class works great.
Enjoy. :D
Firstly, I only post my opinion on my site. The swkotor is a fact site, to help people who want to min/max powergame, find items, etc.
Secondly, who denied the Sentinel's immunities were not useful? Before you go on a tangent, realize what you're ranting about.
Thirdly, it is not opinion that skills are almost useless in KotOR, its fact. If you choose to use them, it doesn't change the fact that they're almost useless. The fact that you don't need to use skills to succesfully play through KotOR is what makes them useless. Just because you say it is opinion doesn't make it so.
Go ahead, try to play KotOR without spending any of your skill points. You don't need skills, therefore, they're useless. Not opinion, FACT.
Fourthly, who said Sentinels were underpowered? I said they weren't balanced. That is also fact.
Fifthly, my use of opinion, is scarce, if at all. I said I beat Malak without using a healing item. Thats not opinion, that is experience. Skills are almost worthless... again experience, and fact. I said that Sentinels are not balanced with the other jedi classes, fact. Where is this opinion, which I am using as the entire evidence and credentials of my posts?
Sixthly, why should I care what a bunch of people think about the sentinel? Opinion is moot. They're not underpowered, but they're not balanced with the other classes. Fact.
Actually, it is my opinion that the guardian is the least effective. Nice assumption, though. I think the sentinel is just the least powerful, not the least effective.
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I'de say if it doesn't come within the next few weeks/month, it will be unveiled at E3.
prolly right
O'course I am.
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Explain how pointing out that the Sentinels' immunities are useful is flawed logic espicially when one gives two reasons why.
Explain how the fact that the Consular's extra force powers, and force points are nice; but not absolutely neccessary due tot he fact only a handful of force powers are useful anyways and the fact the mana... err... force powers regenertae inbetween battles anyways.
Exaplin how me satting the few extra points that a Guardian receieves over a Sentinel isn't that a big deal since by the end of the game any Jedi cna pretty much hit anything's AC.
And, I guess I'm not the only "BIo fanboy" or person who's logic is "flawed" right? Check out this thread... I guess all those there who agree with me are fools too, huh? And, those who agree with you ar egeniuses?
http://swforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html...hlight=Sentinel
But, hey, if one ones to trade silly flames with me and ignore the fact that what either of say isn't fact but opinion as everyone has different tastes, go right ahead. More power to ya.
What are you talking about?
I've only posted fact. YOU'RE the one who posted opinion:
Locks = Bash. That's so crude.I prefer opening them nicely.Computers = Spikes. I;d rather spend my credits on other stuff. In the early part of the game I was *always* running out of them.
Who cares what you would prefer, or not? The fact is skills are almost worthless in KotOR, because you have workarounds like uber-bashing, and access to computer spikes out the anus. BioWare poorly balanced the skills, and the classes in the game.
Thus far you've said you're sentinel's AC was high... Sentinels get no AC bonus. Only Scoundrel's get a class-based AC bonus. Whose illogical?
The fact is the ONLY ability which sentinels get, which have any weight, are the immunities. The immunities do not weigh-in when compared to the consular's abilities, nor the guardian's feats and BAB.
http://shadow-network.net/swkotor
Go... look for yourself. I went to the trouble of outlining what, EXACTLY, classes get. Ignoring your opinion about skills(which is impossible for you, I know), Sentinel is the least effective of the jedi classes.
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KotOR used what was clearly a modified NWN engine. I hope they can do better on "project X"
If by modified, you mean "barely recognizable base code," yeah modified.
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Oh?
So I am a troll because I list the class problems and your only reply is "I think its fine" as you dance around the issues.
Your only defence is that "sentienels get one more skill point", I left immunities alone as I left Force Jump and Force Focus alone.
Besides anyone that visited NwN forums on game release time knows of your reputation as a fanboy since when a large number of people complained about NwN OC campain you did exactly what you did now, dance around the issues and proclaimed it was "fine".
Whatever ...
Tip when arguing with Volourn:
Choose your battles. Anyone can judge his arguements in this thread as flawed. Just make your points, and when he doesn't refute them with anything valid, let it die, or point back to your previous post.
The Little Things That Got "lost In Translation"
in Star Wars: General Discussion
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I didn't say it wasn't doable without speed. I said I couldn't imagine doing it without it.
I also said to him without any force powers. I know I certainly could not(then again, I do not have the patience to save every round.)