yellow_lenghan

Yes, from memory it's definitely in the game as light side male (I only played once). My quote is a cut and paste of the file dialog.tlk. I never saw this movie of Nihilus talking with Sion. I only unlocked 54 of the 65 movies available in this first playthrough. So it's maybe one the 11 movies not unlocked or it's a movie that was cut but still presents in the files somewhere. If such a movie exists, then your deductions make much senses.

Also in the end, when you ask If Kreia manipulated you all along... Kreia: Yes, always. From the moment you awoke, I have used you. I have used you so that you might become strong, stronger than I. I used your death to deceive the Sith, to make them believe they had won, so they would turn on each other. And I used you to make those who wounded me reveal themselves, so they could be killed by the Republic. I used you to keep the Lords of the Sith from condemning the galaxy to death with their power unchecked. I used you to lure them to Telos, where they could be, at last, fought and killed. I used you to reveal Atris' corruption, so that her teachings could be ended before they began. I used you to gather the Jedi so they could be destroyed. And I used you to make those who wounded me reveal themselves, so they could be killed by the Republic. The sentence in bold...(It's probably a glitch, but it really comes two times.) Of whom is Kreia talking about? Who are the "those who wounded me reveal themselves"? Is she refering to Sion who cuts her hand (not likely)? or to the people who stripped her from the force (Sion, Nihilus) ? or to the people who betrayed her (council? or maybe Sion and Nihilius? or Atris if she betrayed her which I doubt) ? Or maybe the fact that the sentence is repeated two times is not a glitch. It's maybe one time to designate Sion and Nihilus who stripped her from the force, and one time to designate the council who exiled her for having a child and going to war. Edit: Also why didn't Sion and Nihilius killed Kreia when they stripped her of the force?

I just finished the game for my first time... wow! Great storyline! All those "untolds, what if, could it be" reminds me alot of Planescape. Great stuff! At the end, before the final fight, Kreia clearly states that she was stripped from the force. When we ask if she could have used other jedis beside us... Kreia: No, there were not. In times past and in times future, there are Jedi who will stop listening to the Force, those that will try to forget it, but maintain unconscious ties. {Quiet}And those, as in the past just as I, who have had the force stripped from them. But no Jedi ever made the choice you did. To sever ties so completely, so utterly, that it leaves a wound in the Force.It was a mistake to try to make you feel it again, I see that now. There is no truth in the Force. But there is truth in you, exile. And that is why I chose you. My question is WHO stripped her from the force and WHEN does it happened? As she said, it was not a choice she made. So it's not like the exile who willingly disconnected himself from the force to survive the death of thousands people/jedi having "bonds" with him. So if someone stipped the force from her, I guess it had to occured before Malachor V. Could it be the jedi council? As Vrook said first time you meet him, it is in the power of the council to strip someone from the force, but this hasn't happened in a long time and the council didn't do it to the exile. So can this be a reference to the council stripping Kreia of the force? The question brought by this is, what is the soo terrible thing that kreia did to receive such punishment? I don't know when that stripping occured, but I cannot really say that it is because she always trained flawed padawans. To my knowledge, only Revan was reported as a flawed padawan before Kreia was sent into exile (and possible being stripped of the force at the same occasion). And if that was the reason, I found it a quite heavy punishment for only one flawed padawan. So to get back on topic of the initial post, I like a lot the theory of Kreia being Kea. But my biggest drawback is that Kreia has been stripped of the force (possible by the council, but that's not certain) and that I see no reason at all for Kea tha Handmaiden's mother to receive this punishment. Having a child, leaving for the mandalorian wars... that can bring exile as punishment, but not removal of the force. And there are never mention of Master Kea being stripped of the force by the council. To me, she seemed like a respected Jedi Master until that her baby was discovered, that she followed Revan to war and was exiled. => EDIT: Ok, surely no big news for anyone reading the spoiler forum, but I see now that it is Nihilus and Sion who stripped Kreia of the force (as seen in the first movie when you talk to Keira about her background on the ebon hawk). So it's not the Council... I am almost desappointed <_< So as Keira's removal of the force occured after Master Kea was exiled, then yes they could both be the same person. Btw, how does she recconnected to the force so easily? To be able to teach prescience stuff and jedi tricks to the Exile, you have to be more then barely reconnected to the forec, no?