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    2) Trying to influence an election indirectly through the use of propaganda has existed as long as there's been elections, and other means before that. This is realpolitik 101.

     

     

    And? Should we just accept it now in  a connected and digital age ?

     

     

    As the rest of my post suggest, yes, you should roll over, cry and admit defeat that you're dealing with forces that you cannot fight in any possible way.

  2. 1) Considering that OpenSSL has now been compromised again, it practically means that NSA and any other agancy in any other country has been pretty much listening and probing each others communications the last five or six years.

     

    https://zerobin.net/?06dae5d45335d2b4#m8FRD5qfMgH1rxjVH4oAjHvOMxJArCGp9UIogpmsnHg=

     

    2) Trying to influence an election indirectly through the use of propaganda has existed as long as there's been elections, and other means before that. This is realpolitik 101.

     

    What one should question is how to safeguard against it and what instruments should be used who in turn are objective enough not to influence the elections themselves.

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    Took a brief check on the torture video. Those guys weren't hating anyone, they were having the time of their lives and laughed. Hatred requires a moral compass to pass judgement on others, which they did not have. They were like children plucking the wings of an insect, which is more scary as that means that they have been brought up in a society were them, their parents and their friends do not simply care at all.

     

    That is more scary than hate, imo.

     

    So the Holocaust wasn't hate because Germans were having the time of their lives and laughed? I don't follow your logic.

    They clearly were acting upon hate for white people. They attacked a disabled person, because they are cowards and know they are not a match for one helathy white person.

     

    No, the nazis had clearly placed judgement that the jews were a bane against the germans and should be eradicated. The people torturing were like the children from Lord of Flies, except that they were adults behaving with infantile sensibilities. They have never developed into civilized normal human beings.

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    Took a brief check on the torture video. Those guys weren't hating anyone, they were having the time of their lives and laughed. Hatred requires a moral compass to pass judgement on others, which they did not have. They were like children plucking the wings of an insect, which is more scary as that means that they have been brought up in a society were them, their parents and their friends do not simply care at all.

     

    That is more scary than hate, imo.

    So if its not a hate crime are you saying  we shouldn't charge them at all, do you think maybe counseling will work ?

     

     

    Counselling does not create a moral compass, no. I mean that this is way worse. They should be locked away Breivik-style. They are extremly dangerous and should be considered as such. They were simply sociopaths.

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  5. Took a brief check on the torture video. Those guys weren't hating anyone, they were having the time of their lives and laughed. Hatred requires a moral compass to pass judgement on others, which they did not have. They were like children plucking the wings of an insect, which is more scary as that means that they have been brought up in a society were them, their parents and their friends do not simply care at all.

     

    That is more scary than hate, imo.

  6. As for diet i eat lots of meat and avoid anything with sugar or carbohydrates in it. So no sodas, snacks, only whole grain bread and so on. Combine that with a work out and not only you feel good, but you look good as well. My recommendation for americans: ditch anything with corn syrup in it. I almost fell ill after two weeks of eating that kind of stuff.

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    Don't worry fellas, it's just an isolated incident. These new romans will succesfully integrate into Rome . After all, the franks, goths and vandals are all fleeing their home countries for a better life and it is our duty to welcome them.

     

    After all, everyone knows nobody has ever created anything of cultural and artistic value since the fall of Rome, especially not any people descended from those filthy barbarians.

     

     

    The point was a jab against people thinking about waves of immigration only being a question of increase of labour and other materialistic issues, while at the same time highlighting the inheritly destructive forces that are one the move, historically speaking. It was not about prefered methods of cultural exchange. 

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    The Chinese government is a despicable, parasitic, brutal, brass-knuckled, crass, callous, amoral, ruthless and totally totalitarian imperialist power that reigns over the world’s leading cancer factory, its most prolific propaganda mill and the biggest police state and prison on the face of the earth.

    When were you last time in China?

     

    Answer me this:

    In which country you can buy bread, some ingredients and start selling sandwiches on a sidewalk starting your own small business. And no one will bother you.

    A) USA

    B) China

     

     

    Funny, it made me think of this:

     

  9. I don't want to be too nitpicky; but I would certainly hope that when looking for an 'inevitable' collapse to compare the current situation to it would happen a little faster than the time between Caesar and Constantine- a mere 350 odd years. That's an awful long time for a gradual collapse, especially since that time frame includes mediocre leaders such as, er, Augustus, Hadrian, Trajan etc and the period when Rome was indisputably at its strongest.

     

    If anything the problem with later Rome was that it didn't even bother trying to assimilate the new settlers and treated them with utter contempt, thought themselves inherently superior, stole from them etc etc leading to such utterly pointless wasteful and unnecessary imbecilities as happened at Adrianople. A more rational and less born to the purple attitude and Rome could easily have survived. Would have helped if they didn't continually kill off all the half way competent leaders (Stilicho, Aetius, Majorian) as well.

     

    (I think Merkel's open door policy was moronic, but comparisons to Rome aren't so much not in the same ballpark as not in the same city)

     

    I do not mind being nitpicky. Aside of the treatment of the new citizens and the length of time, the result is still the same, concentration of power, rise of an empire and its inevitable collapse due to degradation of culture producing horrible rulers. In any case, as a consolation i think that the following gif illustrates how the state of discussing politics at this forum will always will be:

     

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    Don't worry fellas, it's just an isolated incident. These new romans germans will succesfully integrate into Rome Germany. After all, the franks, goths and vandals the north african, middle eastern and sub-sahara african migrants are all fleeing their home countries for a better life and it is our duty to welcome them.

     

    Bro, Rome successfully assimilated most of western and southern Europe, North Africa and the Middle East from the time of the Social War (~90BC) and it was a successful model up until... 370ish AD? Probably not the example you're looking for, really.

     

     

    It is the example that i am looking for actually. During the period that you mentioned had a failing economy, demographics and general trust in Rome, resulting Caesar (44BC) and finally Imperium (during which we saw the change of state religion and the transvalution of values) which will gradually collapse in itself.

     

    It will probably happen faster this time though and it will of course not be exactly the same, but i am pointing out the same forces are at bay. Enjoy the ride.

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     I see that people who write those hateful comments always refer to refugees in general. That includes women, children and family men, who actually respect our laws instead of committing crimes. But that generalization makes less smart people think that refugees in general are the problem. Drive them all out or kill them all, and we can be save again.

    The problem is, that our government isn't able to put our laws through. Punish the people who break those laws, and every innocent person can be happy. But that doesn't happen. Because our government, and there's the irony, is afraid to be called racist again, if they're too rough to the refugees and other immigrants. Rather let them get away with nearly everything, so other countries can't blame us for abusing foreingers. That's where the hate comes from. Yes, our government is very sensitive when it comes to dealing with immigrant criminals. It's always been like that. The problem has only worsened with all these refugees around. People are tired of that attitude. But instead of concentrating their hate on the culprit, the government, many turn against the refugees. Including the innocent ones. And that's what I don't like at all.

     

    Very reasonable sentiment. Sadly, I can only see all of this going in a very bad direction. How bad it will be depends on how long this gets stretched out. Solutions that come sooner will be more pleasant than those that come later.

     

    Then we better expect the worst.

     

    Sympathies for the current situation in Germany.  Do you think that the German people will still vote for Angela Merkel?.

     

    Edit: When I say the German people I mean all those that have all been residents of Germany prior to the migrant crisis and recent movement of people.

     

    Some will vote for Merkel's CDU, others will vote for the AfD, which is even worse. Because those are the real racists and will do terrible things if they get enough power. We have more parties, though. I'm still trying to figure out the best alternative, but I don't have much hope for now. If only somebody stepped up with a reasonable plan. But that's unlikely. There are way too many cooks to spoil the soup, so the reasonable people don't get enough attention.

     

     

    Since the other german guy at the board is for dissolving Germany entirely, i am curious about your thoughts. What do you think where Germany is going and what do you wish the future will be?

  12. Don't worry fellas, it's just an isolated incident. These new romans germans will succesfully integrate into Rome Germany. After all, the franks, goths and vandals the north african, middle eastern and sub-sahara african migrants are all fleeing their home countries for a better life and it is our duty to welcome them.

     

    People are resources to expand productivity for the labor pool and to increase the market size first and foremost, stop imagining that they are vessels of culture, beliefs and customs. 

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    It's almost sad how easy it is to hit a nerve with you. (...)

     

    When confronted with arguments based outside the spectrum of modernistic spectrum, people tend to throw whatever labels they can in panic.

     

     

    For someone so enamored with the values of antiquity, you certainly seem to be rather fond of displaying hubris, don't you? "Anybody pointing out how absurdly, ridiculously, completely wrong I am has to do so because they're thin-skinned and panicking! It can't possibly have anything to do with the quality of my ideas!"

     

    Yeah, keep telling yourself that, bro.

     

     

    Nah, i think that you're lying. A natural reaction is a counter argument, of which you can easily give but choose not to for other reasons,which i suspect is due to emotional ones.

     

     

     

     

    Normal people have a feminine respective masculine inner ideal of what they want to spend the rest of their lives with, lets call it the inner waifu. Homosexuals have never developed such and project themselves on their inner waifu. Ergo, they want to screw themselves instead of overcoming their complexes of their masculine and feminine traits. Transsexuals on the other hand, wish to become their inner waifu, meaning that their complexes stem from different kind of complex.

     

     

    Man, I have to use this video a lot in response to you, don't I?

     

     

    It's almost sad how easy it is to hit a nerve with you.

     

     

    Normal people have a feminine respective masculine inner ideal of what they want to spend the rest of their lives with, lets call it the inner waifu. Homosexuals have never developed such and project themselves on their inner waifu. Ergo, they want to screw themselves instead of overcoming their complexes of their masculine and feminine traits. Transsexuals on the other hand, wish to become their inner waifu, meaning that their complexes stem from different kind of complex. Everyone in-between are just confused about themselves.

     

    I'm afraid your projecting yourself onto others. You're rationalizing how people like you (hetero-sexual) could desire to engage in 'different' kinds of sexual patterns without external material motivations. For some one who is implied (by others) to be a fascist from time-to-time you have an awfully egalitarian<-(not the correct use of the term, but best I could come up with) mindset regarding other people.

     

     

    But anyhow, what do you mean by external material motivations?

     

    Get a media job for being gay. Enjoy attention from your progressive friends for being LGBT and moving up the progressive stack. Enjoy the benefits of a homosexual benefactor. 

     

    These would be people who are engaging in LGBT behavior, but only due to outside influence. Take away the job, progressive stack, and boyfriend cash; they'd be straight, or "normal".  

     

     

    That was not the angle that i was looking for, i do not think sexuality is easily morphed by mere external and material reasons. I think it is rooted deeply into our psyche, of which in itself is to a certain degree biologically determined on a base level (how much? dunno). Ever seen your friends fall in love with someone that you cannot comprehend why? It's because they match their projected image of their inner waifu, which is deeply personal.

     

    In any case, just because sexual minorities haven't matured psychologically in terms of sexuality(=hetero), it doesn't mean that you have to think less of them or that they are less worth or something. We are all dealt with different cards in life after all, and we owe it to ourselves to play them to our fullest potential.

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    Normal people have a feminine respective masculine inner ideal of what they want to spend the rest of their lives with, lets call it the inner waifu. Homosexuals have never developed such and project themselves on their inner waifu. Ergo, they want to screw themselves instead of overcoming their complexes of their masculine and feminine traits. Transsexuals on the other hand, wish to become their inner waifu, meaning that their complexes stem from different kind of complex.

     

     

    Man, I have to use this video a lot in response to you, don't I?

     

     

    It's almost sad how easy it is to hit a nerve with you.

     

     

    Normal people have a feminine respective masculine inner ideal of what they want to spend the rest of their lives with, lets call it the inner waifu. Homosexuals have never developed such and project themselves on their inner waifu. Ergo, they want to screw themselves instead of overcoming their complexes of their masculine and feminine traits. Transsexuals on the other hand, wish to become their inner waifu, meaning that their complexes stem from different kind of complex. Everyone in-between are just confused about themselves.

     

    I'm afraid your projecting yourself onto others. You're rationalizing how people like you (hetero-sexual) could desire to engage in 'different' kinds of sexual patterns without external material motivations. For some one who is implied (by others) to be a fascist from time-to-time you have an awfully egalitarian<-(not the correct use of the term, but best I could come up with) mindset regarding other people.

     

     

    When confronted with arguments based outside the spectrum of modernistic spectrum, people tend to throw whatever labels they can in panic. But anyhow, what do you mean by external material motivations?

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    Soon Merkel will reveal her Final Solution to the Muslim Problem: invade Eastern Yurop and Russia again to capture Lebensraum to accomodate the "refugees".

     

    That makes a disturbing amount of sense xD

     

     

    It would be more subtle than that. They would force the EU to become a federation, effectively eroding the borders and then Brussels will impose directives to move refugees into zones/districts areas in need of "human development". Same result, different methodology.

  16. Normal people have a feminine respective masculine inner ideal of what they want to spend the rest of their lives with, lets call it the inner waifu. Homosexuals have never developed such and project themselves on their inner waifu. Ergo, they want to screw themselves instead of overcoming their complexes of their masculine and feminine traits. Transsexuals on the other hand, wish to become their inner waifu, meaning that their complexes stem from different kind of complex. Everyone in-between are just confused about themselves.

     

    Nevertheless in the grand scheme of things, it is of little matter as they make up such a little percentage of the population and what they do to themselves is of little matter outside their communities. 

  17. There's been some shooting at the US embassy in Ankara as well, and now i hear about three people shot at an islamic center in Zurich, a raid is going on in Brussels, and someone drove a truck through a christmas market in Berlin, killing 9 wounding 50 and got away with it to boot. They got him.

     

    ...the **** is going on?

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