House Doemenel faction broken.

[clcwolf]

Here are the steps I have taken, and where I have ended up. 

 

1. Completed "Two Story Job" by showing letter to Reymont. 

 

2. Completed "At All Costs" by killing Verzano, with Danna telling me to go see Abrecan.

 

3. Abrecan says something about "trouble with the neighbor", and from then on just says "Get to the point or get out of my sight."

 

At no point does Abrecan offer me a quest. I understand it would be "A Two Story Job" but shouldn't he offer me something to take the gem? Why does Danna tell me to see him. This seems to be a bug somewhere, as it makes no sense. 

[sapientNode]

You gave the letter to Reymont which means you warned him of the theft.

You have to go to Abrecan with the letter to get further into Doemenel.

And if you do have the letter before even talking to Abrecan show him it do not ask him about the job because if you do and have the letter it will bug and get stuck because it is waiting for you to obtain the letter for it to trigger.

 

Danna/Verzano quest has nothing to do with further Doemenel quests.  If you kill her though you will be at terror level with D.

Interestingly even at terror level they do not attack on sight and you can still 2 story job but I do not think you can get high enough to attend hearings.

Also the sister upstairs gives you a quest but that also does not go towards the D quest line.  It just opens her as a merchant.

Edited October 17, 2015 by sapientNode

[clcwolf]

 

You have to go to Abrecan with the letter to get further into Doemenel.

This is not strictly true, which is pretty much my entire point. You don't even know about them when you complete "A Two Story Job" the way I did it. Just says "AD".  The matter of the letter is already decided, and then I 'discovered' the Doemenel faction by getting the "At All Costs" quest. Danna even tells me to go see her brother.  So why does that happen if you already have locked yourself out? The fact that this is a dead end, based on actions already completed is why I consider this a bug. Why send the player on a pointless task? 

 

That aside, has anyone discovered a workaround with a console command? 

[sapientNode]

Yes I see your point and the Doemenel progression does have some blocks.

However you do at least know you are turning in the thieves and if you have been into house Doemenel it makes sense.

I guess they assume certain paths the player will take.

 

Yes there are console commands for pushing a quest ahead.

The one to advance quests needs iemod

The one to start a quest does not seem to need it installed.

http://rien-ici.com/iemod/console

You will have to find the quest name though.

Perhaps that is as simple as typing list quests.

Quest data and names are found: \PillarsOfEternity_Data\data\quests\

from there you can potentially restart two story job but you might have to use additem to add the letter again.

I have no idea if this will break the game since you already did complete it one way.

[613 The Evil]

You gave the letter to Reymont which means you warned him of the theft.

You have to go to Abrecan with the letter to get further into Doemenel.

And if you do have the letter before even talking to Abrecan show him it do not ask him about the job because if you do and have the letter it will bug and get stuck because it is waiting for you to obtain the letter for it to trigger.

 

Danna/Verzano quest has nothing to do with further Doemenel quests.  If you kill her though you will be at terror level with D.

Interestingly even at terror level they do not attack on sight and you can still 2 story job but I do not think you can get high enough to attend hearings.

Also the sister upstairs gives you a quest but that also does not go towards the D quest line.  It just opens her as a merchant.

Please clarify this, if you are sure. I've read elsewhere that it doesn't matter if you kill Danna and her vengeful boyfriend, you can still get the 2 quests from House Doemenel to get you into the Animancy hearings. Are you positively saying that this is impossible? I have At All Costs quest and I am about to complete it by killing Danna and then Verzano. I have not been in the nobles' district yet so no prior Doemenel interaction. Please expand on the matter. Also, if I kill Danna and also give the letter to the rival noble house, will that mean I should forget the merchant of the Doemenels? They will never let me even near their house?