Good Saber/Force Forms vs. Bad Saber/Force Forms

[Nihilus5078]

I know this will be a long post but, I want to see what other people think of the Saber Forms and Force Forms and which ones are weak and strong.

 

Saber Forms:

 

Ataru (Aggression):

 

Defense: -2

Defense vs. Current Target: +5

Blaster Bolt Deflection: -4

Weapon Threat Range: +1

 

Single Opponent: +

Blaster Deflect: -

 

(Note that Defense bonuses cumulative, so this form provides a net +3 defense against your current target, but -2 defense against enemies that are not your target)

 

Makashi (Contention):

 

Attack Modifier: +3 (Only if target is wielding a lightsaber)

Damage: +3

Blaster Bolt Deflection: -5

Saves vs. Force Powers: +2

 

Against Jedi: +

Blaster Deflect: -

 

Shii-Cho (Determination):

 

Attack Modifier: +1

Defense: +3

Defense vs. Current Target: -3

 

(Note that Defense bonuses cumulative, so this form provides a net +0 defense against your current target, but +3 defense against enemies that are not your target)

 

Many Opponents: +

 

Juyo (Ferocity):

 

Defense: -4

Defense vs. Current Target: +2

Saves vs. Force Powers: -2

Attacks: +1

Critical Hit Attack Modifier: +4

 

(Note that Defense bonuses cumulative, so this form provides a net -2 defense against your current target)

 

(Note that the Critical Hit Attack Modifier increases the likelihood that a critical threat will result in extra damage)

 

Single Opponents: +

Saves vs. Force Powers: -

 

Shien (Perservence):

 

Attack Modifier: +2

Defense vs. Current Target: -5

Blaster Bolt Deflection: +2

Critical Multiplier: +1

 

(Note that the Attack Modifier also aids in Blaster Bolt Deflection, so this form gives a net +4 Blaster Bolt Deflection)

 

Many Opponents: +

Single Opponents: -

 

Soresu (Resilience):

 

Defense vs. Current Target: +2

Blaster Bolt Deflection: +4

Weapon Threat Range: -1

 

Blaster Deflect: +

 

Niman (Moderation):

 

Attack Modifier: +1

Defense: +1

Blaster Bolt Deflection: +1

Saves vs. Force Powers: +1

 

Well-Balanced: +

 

Force Forms:

 

Force Channel:

 

FP Regeneration: +50% (non-combat)

Force Power Damage: +3

Saves vs. Force Powers: +2

 

Force Potency:

 

Force Power Damage: +20%

FP Cost: +20%

 

Force Affinity:

 

Faster Force Point Regeneration during combat

 

Force Mastery:

 

Force Power Duration: +50%

Enemy Saves vs. Force Powers: -2

Saves vs. Force Powers: -4

FP Cost: +20%

 

To me, Niman, Shii-Cho, and Makashi, are the most useful, and for Force forms, Force Channel is the only really useful one. For me Ataru is useless, since all it really does is damage non-targeted enemies defense by 2 and give a +3 to current targets defense and gives some silly little +1 Weapon Threat Range, stupid. Force Forms, Affinity is useless since all it does is increase FP regeneration during combat. Juyo, Potency, Mastery, Shien, and Soresu are all okay, are good when used in the right situation. And for the Jedi Knight games, I generally use the Balanced or Fast style

 

Fast:

 

Damage: Low

Enemies Attacked at Once: High

Blaster Bolt Deflection: High

Attack Speed: Fast

Lightsaber Defense: Medium

Breaking Saber Locks: Low

 

Balanced:

 

Damage: Medium

Enemies Attacked at Once: Medium

Blaster Bolt Deflection: Medium

Attack Speed: Fast

Lightsaber Defense: Medium

Breaking Saber Locks: Medium

 

Strong:

 

Damage: High

Enemies Attacked at Once: Medium

Blaster Bolt Deflection: Low

Attack Speed: Slow

Lightsaber Defense: Low

Breaking Saber Locks: High

 

I'm also going to have a topic about armor, upgrades, and weapons and which ones are weak and strong and Force Powers.

Edited March 26, 2009 by Nihilus5078

[refuse]

My characters are usually more Force-orientated after I've leveled up a bit, so I don't really use that many saber forms, apart from Makashi, which I try to compliment with at least one crystal that gives Blaster Deflection to make up for the lack of defense. I find it really compliments the Force Jump that Guardians/Weapons Masters get.

 

As for Force forms, Force Channel is obviously the best all-around choice (and the one I mostly use) from start to finish of the game, but Force Potency is also quite good for Sith Lords and the lightning storm force power, especially when you're level 30+ and running out of force points during combat isn't an issue anymore. Likewise, Force Mastery can be useful for LS when you need all those extra protective force powers to last longer.