Rhomal Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Has anyone played SR 4E here? Was wondering what you thought of the changes vs/ the previous core rules? Were the changes worthwhile? I only play sporadicly with 2E and 3E myself was wondering if 4E was worth getting. Admin of World of Darkness Online News News/Community site for the WoD MMORPG http://www.wodonlinenews.net --- Jericho sassed me so I broke into his house and stabbed him to death in his sleep. Problem solved. - J.E. Sawyer --- "I cannot profess to be a theologian; but it seems to me that Christians who believe in a super human Satan have got themselves into a logical impasse with regard to their own religion. For either God can not prevent the mischief of Satan, in which case he is not omnipotent; or else He could do so if he wished, but will not, in which case He is not benevolent. Fortunately, being a pagan witch, I am not called upon to solve this problem." - Doreen Valiente --- Expecting "innovation" from Bioware is like expecting "normality" from Valve -Moatilliatta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Bulock Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I've been playing in a game as of late, my first with the new edition. I definitely like a lot of the changes. A bit less wacky when it comes to min-maxing, but still can have problems when you have characters running in three separate planes, especially if your GM is a bit new. It is fully of improvements across the board though, and is a great edition to start people with, whereas third edition had enough of a learning curve that noobs always seemed to find a way to cripple their characters pretty fast. Also, while I haven't managed to track them down yet, the supplements that are getting released look really interesting, and make it seem like 4th edition will get better support. My blood! He punched out all my blood! - Meet the Sandvich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I have always liked Shadowrun. Obsidian should make a real CRPG out of the game... With a Tools Set... Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 It'd be hard to top the old SEGA Shadowrun game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 If anyone could do it, it would be Obsidian! Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 And with a toolset. As a side note: I didn't even realize it was up to 4th The last stuff I got was 1st edition... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Bulock Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 And with a toolset. As a side note: I didn't even realize it was up to 4th >_ The last stuff I got was 1st edition... You should definitely check it out again. They've really fleshed out the world a lot more and cleaned up the mechanics. Still a little slow in some combats, but better. My blood! He punched out all my blood! - Meet the Sandvich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhomal Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 I've been playing in a game as of late, my first with the new edition. I definitely like a lot of the changes. A bit less wacky when it comes to min-maxing, but still can have problems when you have characters running in three separate planes, especially if your GM is a bit new. It is fully of improvements across the board though, and is a great edition to start people with, whereas third edition had enough of a learning curve that noobs always seemed to find a way to cripple their characters pretty fast. Also, while I haven't managed to track them down yet, the supplements that are getting released look really interesting, and make it seem like 4th edition will get better support. 'cripple' their PC? How so? *confused* Admin of World of Darkness Online News News/Community site for the WoD MMORPG http://www.wodonlinenews.net --- Jericho sassed me so I broke into his house and stabbed him to death in his sleep. Problem solved. - J.E. Sawyer --- "I cannot profess to be a theologian; but it seems to me that Christians who believe in a super human Satan have got themselves into a logical impasse with regard to their own religion. For either God can not prevent the mischief of Satan, in which case he is not omnipotent; or else He could do so if he wished, but will not, in which case He is not benevolent. Fortunately, being a pagan witch, I am not called upon to solve this problem." - Doreen Valiente --- Expecting "innovation" from Bioware is like expecting "normality" from Valve -Moatilliatta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Bulock Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 In third edition, many of the players in game would go for a jack of all trades approach, and in doing so, have horrible dice pools for almost any action. Or specialists would over specialize in a single task instead of a role. These are not new PnP problems, I just thought that the way characters are built, along with the relatively slow speed of character progression in SR allowed for a very long learning process if the mistakes were made. 4th edition has made it a bit more difficult to make your character useless at nearly everything. My blood! He punched out all my blood! - Meet the Sandvich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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