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Hey, Basically after finish Ing deadfire i got 1st one and i wanna create Rogue Human with dual daggers/Stilettos. Any help or build idea would be great, also why enemy allways Focus my rogue not eder? 

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If you want to build the Rogue efficiently you cannot use dagger and stilettos, you'd have to decide which ones you like better and then pick a backup weapon set which belongs to the same weapon focus group.

Weapon focus gives you +6 accuracy for a certain group of weapons.

Weapon Focus Noble contains daggers (among other weapons).

Weapon Focus Ruffian contains stilettos.

You don't want to buy two weapon focuses if you can avoid it.

Avoiding it means picking for example two stilettos as main weapon set and use two sabres or clubs as backup (since both belong to the Weapon Focus Ruffian) or pick daggers + maces or rapiers (Weapon Focus Noble).

The best unique weapon of the dagger or stiletto variant is a dagger: Drawn in Spring. It comes rather late though. There's also a good speedy dagger early in the game (March Steel Dagger).

But there are also two nice stilettos in the game which both proc certain spell effects on crit (once per encounter): Azureith's Stiletto (procs Jolting Touch on crit) which comes super early and Bleak Fang (procs Touch of Rot) which comes late.

There are some really nice unique/spoil bound (early) clubs and sabres in the game, too.

So I personally would probably concentrate on stiletto and use some nice clubs and sabres as backup (when you meet enemies who are resistant or immune to pierce damage): clubs do crush dmg, sabres slash damage.

Then pick Two Weapon Style, several of the full attack strikes (Crippling, Blinding etc.), NOT Savage Attack (of doesn't stack with Reckless Assault which you should pick).

If you get targeted a LOT despite Eder engaging enemies it's most likely that your Rogue is so soft that he is too much of a temptation for enemies' AI. Rangers, Barbs, Rogues etc. prefer to attack low deflection, low DR and low endurance targets. If you dumped RES and CON and put on no significant of DR you will be very attractive. So attractive that enemies will even break engagement with Eder in order to get to you.

Putting on a thicker armor and giving some +deflection items can help. You will have less offensive output - but your offensive output will be zero if you get attacked and knocked out all the time. So you have to compromise a bit.

Also stay stealthed until Eder really has engaged several enemies and only then in stealth and try to flank enemies - rather than approaching the middle of the front line. You can place Eder at the front of the group and then leave a gap. So that enemies discover Eder first and the rest of the party stays hidden for longer.

Use Escape to... escape if things get dire. Use Boots of Speed to run away if enemies approach you. If you are a lot faster than the enemy the AI usually stops following you immediately because there's no point. Beware disengagement attacks though.

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Again youre my savior. How should i put my points in? Right now im 15 str, 8 con, 18 dex, 18 per, 10 int and 8 res. Also what armor should i aim for? Any unique? 

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3 hours ago, Shardry115 said:

How should i put my points in? Right now im 15 str, 8 con, 18 dex, 18 per, 10 int and 8 res.

That's not too bad actually. 

Since Rogues get access to a lot of damage bonuses you can easily get away with only 11 MIG though and put more points into CON and RES (both 10). But I think you can also leave it as is. 8 in CON an RES should be manageable.

3 hours ago, Shardry115 said:

Also what armor should i aim for? Any unique? 

I would start fairly thick with a brigandine (doesn't look too weird on a Rogue imo). Kana Rua (companion) has one you could use for example. Then I would try to go lighter from time to time and see how it works, if it's doable.

My goal would be to go all the way down to the Deadfire Pack uniforms (I'd pick the Deackhand's Uniform), but it may be that you'll have to stop at Padded or Leather Armor or so. It depends a bit on your party (like if you have even more squishy party members who take attention awaqy from you for example) and how you play.

If you want to stay with a bit heaver armor because it works well: my favorite for Rogues is the Sun-Touched Mail of Hyran Rath. You can cast Sunbeam with it 3x per Rest. Sunbeam blinds (good for Rogues) and the Rogue's Deathblows (+100% damage against enemies who suffer from at least 2 Sneak-Attack-Afflictions) works with spells, including Sunbeam. So it can be a good damage tool, too. 

At the same time I would def. put on +deflection gear (bracers or cloak) and also some +RES item. If you can get higher deflection that some of your backliners (wizard etc.) the enemies might not want to attack you as desperately.

You can trick enemies a bit by wearing a large shield + hatchet at the start of battle, that will give you a lot of bonus deflection. And then, when the enemies settled on their targets and you are on your way to attack some of them you switch to your actual weapons. It also works with two hatchets (if the look of a large shield feels too weird on your Rogue). Two hatchets give +10 deflection (+5 for each hatchet) and that stacks with everything.  

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I read some where u can copy a weapon and on fandom i found vent pick a Stiletto. Could i some how use 2 the same? Description says its using spell per crit without counting once per battle. Etc. 

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15 minutes ago, Shardry115 said:

I read some where u can copy a weapon and on fandom i found vent pick a Stiletto. Could i some how use 2 the same? Description says its using spell per crit without counting once per battle. Etc. 

You can use the Helwax Mold (an item you get from a Stronghold quest) to copy any item that is not soulbound. Vent Pick is not a soulbound item, so it can be copied. 

It is smart to first upgrade the weapon as much as possible - and only then copy it with the mold.

Vent Pick can proc Flames of Devotion unlimited times per encounter, true - but it only has a 5% chance to proc on every hit or crit. In other words: only 5 out of 100 successful hits/crits will proc Flames of Devotion.

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