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    In this day and age, the audience wins, the end. Every alternate portrait in this thread that is sourced from an unnamed artist is proof of that. The creative commons is common to all regardless of the wishes of content creators, and there is no taking it back the moment the pixels hit  the network.

     

     

    On that grounds, we should can law enforcement, morals, basic decent behavior  and everything else too. Let's not even try to do anything right, or teach people to..because you can never fix everything.  Because people do what ever, all the time. Sorry, .... but no deal!

     

    I am really beginning to wonder, what kind of "creative commons" you are talking about.

    I used to think you are talking about "free" licenses... but that can obviously not be it. 

    As far as I know, those -do- feature the decision to allow changes or not, and also attribution“. As in giving credit to the creator.

     

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    It's not like I -asked- to have discussions about this stuff.

    I just meant to share some paintings. I did not know, people would attack me or that basic human decency is something terrible and alien here.

    It's not really like I asked much of people, behaving more or less decent would work just fine.

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  2. Luckily, the 2 or 3 loudmouths who were going on and on and on about that were put in their place by a mod stepping in and removing the ripped version of your work without your watermark. The sad thing is that it is apparently a battle you cannot win. People will rip, steal and plunder because they want that one portrait for their game and saying "hey thank you, artist!" by adding some credits when re-publishing someone else's work is too much work for them. In science failing to do so would rightfully cost you your head, but this is the internet where people can just grab without having to spend 60 seconds to acknowledge someone else's hard work. It's probably not much consolation, but you are in good company: see how many dozens of millions rip high quality movies and series like Game of Thrones from torrent sites for free...

     

     

    Well, it would be a little better without feeling, like it's being pushed in my face and I am being told I have to like it...

    I am around, after all.

     

    The standard here is 'use with permission'. Obsidian can't be a resource for material that is used without permission regardless of how used we have gotten to the concept of portrait packs. 

     

    That means when someone reports that he is not happy with the use of his material that has to be respected.

     

    Thank you. A question though, is there a way to edit my original posting of the pictures here in the forum, so that the Issue is a little bit clearer?

    It probably won't help, but I'd still like it to be as clear as possible. I fear the original posting is not as clear as it should be.

     

     

    i would really love to see more Orlan (Wild Orlan in my case) pictures, but its probably just too niche.

     

     

     I only have one. I did plan on more, because I like them. But then..things happend.:/

  3. Just remove your portraits from these forums. You  post on a public forum and expect people not to use them?

     

    I expect people to show some general respect/be fair. That means, when re-posting it, they should give credit and not crop my name.  I am really not asking much here.

     

     

    Huh. I have been using images from Google search for years for my character portraits in these games. It simply never occurred to me to find out who painted the image and get their permission. Sorry.

     

    If you are just personally using art in-game, you do not need to.

    But if you re-post it online, it's -at least- expected to post a link back to the artist. You may not be allowed to post it either way, but you at least try to be fair. Most of the time, that is enough.

    Cropping signatures/watermarks is usually not appreciated, especially because people are often unable or unwilling to understand, that giving credit is important.

    I am sure you can imagine, that if a piece gets re-postet without any indication as to who the artist is, that just continues like that. And at times, that even makes it really difficult to find the artist , even if you try.

     

     

    All I can say to that is If you didn't want them to be used you should've never posted them or put a huge watermark on it so it'd be very difficult to do so.  

     

    However I'd be a bit upset too if someone told me I couldn't put my name on my art. That's ridiculous.  If they know who the artist is and know they asked people to at least give them credit for their work then yeah they should do it.  I personally have no idea who has drawn the stuff I've edited so I can't give them any credit.  I don't take credit for myself tho, I always say that I've edited the pics I work with.

     

     

    Funny, other people accused me of the watermark being to intrusive. I actually intended them to be cropped and used in-game, I just asked them to not be reposted like that.

     

    While I appreciate, that you state you just edited the stuff you do, It's problematic anyways, to do edits of peoples art, without proper permission.

    Still, it's always better to at least -try- to give credit.

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  4. I've never understood why some artists get so upset when someone wants to use their art for a game.  It's not like they're trying to make money from it or anything.  If someone wanted to use something I made I'd be very happy about it!

     

    I am not upset about people using them in-game, I am upset because my wishes and rights are freaking disrespected.

    Because people want to use -everything- at their leisure, but usually it's too much work for them, to even give freaking credit!

     

    I put hours-over-hours into my portraits, and it's apparently too much to ask, that people do not post them cropped and  link back to me.

     

    I have just been told in another thread, that I have -no right- to write my name on my freaking work, and that my rights just don't matter. And this just adds to it.

    So I have all right to be angry.

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  5. Custom Portraits Pack (61 images)

     

     

    Did you do that or did someone else?

    I think I made it pretty clear, that I do not appreciate my work being posted cropped or without backlink. (Not that I should have to.)

    This is essentially both.

     

    Aside from obviously no credit being given to any of the other artists either.

     

    But it's pretty obvious,  many people here have no respect for artists , their work, or their rights, whatsoever.

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  6. I think OP should release an unwatermarked and correctly cropped version of each of the portraits. Not because I personally feel entitled to them, but because other random jackasses will inevitably edit the released files and upload new portraits themselves (even if not on this forum). I'm no artist, but I'm confident these versions won't fit OP's vision of her work. They may even be significantly worse if someone messes up with the files.

     

    Now because she already uploaded a lightly watermarked version, she can't protect her work by more prohibitive watermarking.

     

    1. People have -complained- about using them cropped. So no matter how I am going to crop them, it would still be wrong.

    -> which by your logic means ,they will mess with it anyways. No matter what I do.

     

    2. If I can not write my name on it, because "someone will cut/overpaint it", then I can NEVER write my name on anything. (that goes for traditional work too, if it leaves my hands.)

     

    3. People can -always- get rid of watermarks. No matter how prohibitive, and how much they mess up the piece in the progress.

     

    This is actually a difficult subject, even for artists. If you think this is ****ty, picture how ****ty it is for us. We are -not- doing that just to mess with you!

    Though considering the kind of disrespect that has been going on here, I can not really "blame" people using really "all over" watermarks anymore.

     

    You're right, it's even worse than stolen smartphones actually. 

     

    It's one own's intellectual property. 

     

    EDIT: again, if I wasn't clear before, I think it would have been a smarter self-promotion strategy to release non-watermarked images. I am almost certain that everyone would have played by the book and acknowledged the artist for the portraits just the same. Just like we refer to Bester's mod as 'Bester's'...

     

    I am usually shy and don't want to bother people. I just put my name on things. I know I should do actual promo, but I usually don't, because it makes me feel uncomfortable.

     

    In contrast to specific mods, pictures are not "bound" to the game. I sometimes think pictures are often considered -especially- free game.

    Maybe because they are easy to mess with and well, "source: google".

    But, seriously? I see  people here not giving credit at all, and considering the disrespect and accusations I got here...why would I believe these are good, well meaning people that usually give credit?

     

    The sad thing is, I would have been open for compromises, if it had helped. Like placing my name somewhere else, if it really interferes. -That's- why I explained my thoughts behind it.

    I actually -before I posted here- briefly thought about releasing them properly cut as a .zip, once I have a few more of them(and the variants) and I am confident I won't make changes.

    You know, all naive, trusting people here won't just post them without my name on purpose.

    I am sure you can imagine how I feel about that now. (especially considering Luckmann did just that.)

     

    I do appreciate you being more tolerant on this, btw. Even though you disagree with watermarks.

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    General Notice: I added links to my stuff in my sig.  (Since I am a terrible selfish person anyways, I might as well.)

    In case I paint some new portraits (for myself), I will probably post them somewhere there.

     

    ->That does not mean, I won't post them here on purpose, but If I don't, chances are they show up there at some point.

    Also I occasionally paint some stuff,  that does kinda fit some of the "special" races anyways. That I obviously won't post here. I mean, imagine the hate then?

    As for other portraits, chances are I won't do any more for now. Unless maybe I am asked for commissions (and am allowed to do them.)

    My motivation to just "do some more" like "for you" or because "hype&over-motivation"... is just at a real low due to this.

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  7. @IndiraLightfoot

    Thank you! I hope it works as intended?

     

    And ...yes, my names does. ;) How did you know?

     

    @Malekith

    I'll have to see, if I get anything done before release. This obviously was draining and gave my motivation quite a hit.

     

    @Cyseal

    I am not sure what you are referring to. Are you looking for a painting/drawing Tutorial in Gimp...or what is going on? 

     

    @ashtonw

     

    Oh!

    I just wanted to ask if you are doing a nature godlike... I think I saw the horned wip- version somewhere!

    I remember it looked quite unique and cute with her face structure and all. :) Also pretty dark skin.

     

    No worries, you have a solid base, I'm sure  you can spice it up quite a bit! (Also, it should not be hard to beat my Godlike in that regard, he's kinda....bleak;)..)

     

    Considering all this mess, posting (even a Wip) with like...all ze watermarks:D You are obviously not scared at all~ XD

     

    @critique  I know . :( her face just got...way to "soft" and all. I can imagine some fixes, but I am not sure I'll tackle them before release. (It's boring work..)

    If I actually play her I might, though. Thanks~

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    There's some big-ish versions of some floating around, but nothing consistent, I think. But I asked Polina what resolution they actually worked at before the portraits were resized and if there was any chance we could get our hands on them to study them or work with them to make our own portraits, and the resolution is a crazy 4800 x 7540 pixels 200 dpi. She asked, but the answer was "very unlikely".

     

    I'm pretty sure Photoshop would murder my computer if I opened that up and worked on it, but it'd be so worth it.

     

     

     

    Hm, the pic I found was maybe half that big.

    But seriously, a little bigger than 210x330 might be nice for that, but THAT big would be kinda unnecessary.

     

    I can not confirm that. Hardly anything worse than laggy Photoshop. Or stuck Photoshop.DX

  9. This is where I will randomly interject that I'm sad that Obsidian won't supply us with the PoE portraits in their original size.

     

    *cries a little on the inside*

     

     

    I don't know...I think I saw a huge version of Eder flying around. That one might have been a little too big to enjoy.

     

     

    On a side note though, I actually intended to post my portraits a little bigger than this. :/

  10. @ryukenden

    I made two of them essentially for myself. Because I intend to play those characters. The other one is just for fun.

    Posting them here was more of an afterthought. Well aside from the fact, that I tried to fix them up a little more before posting. Because that is simply what I do, when I post stuff.

    I meant to make some more after that point,  which would not have been for me.

     

    I do not agree however. I don't think "improving the image of the IP" has to be a concern at all. There is a lot of fanart , that I really doubt would improve the image of the original IP.

     

     

    Now if she would put her signature on the corner of the painting, no one would complain.

     

    But that's -why- I put that stuff up there!

    I usually put it in the right-bottom corner. But the way I tested it,  up there seemed to interfere less with the properly cropped portraits.

    I did originally intend to additionally make a little more convenient version, but it just didn't seem any more convenient after that.

     

     

    @Sensuki

    I tried to explain -why- I did only post this one version. Yes, it is important for me, to have my name on the versions that are floating around online.

    But , from my perspective, it has to be cropped anyways, and the last test I did essentially cut off the watermark .

    Your friends just jumped from that, to accusations of me taking some sick pleasure from preventing people from using it in the game. That's just ****ed up.

     

    If that is my mistake, then I am at fault for..what? Not cropping it properly for people?  That just makes it weirder, since the fact that cropping it -cuts of parts- ...and that was stated as the horrible issue.

    That's something I would have done anyways.

     

    So my mistake it showing you bigger, un-cropped Versions.

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    Depends on how they're used and where. Furthermore, this was not about legality, but about protection. Point in case:

     

     

    I am quite aware that those are easily removed. That is why I don't do anything more obstructive, because if someone -really- has ill intentions, it does not matter. (unless I want to ruin my paintings fully)

     

    I usually trust, that most people just want to share stuff. That is another reason -why- I put  my name on there, because they likely wont remove it, and are simply to lazy or clueless to post proper links.

     

    Now would you -please- take them down again.

  12. These are really amazing! You should do commissions, I think a lot of people here would take you up on it.

     

    As for people complaining about the watermark... it's super common, especially with places like Tumblr or imgur, for an artist's work to get spread around uncredited. Most people just do not take the time to source art properly. It's not at all unreasonable for an artist to watermark her work, on the off chance that at some point the artwork is separated from the source. It's also not unusual for people to try to pass artwork off as their own, or to try to make a profit off of artwork that is not theirs. You can't just assume that art is a free resource to use however you'd like. Artists retain copyright over their work from the moment it's created and published. Sure you could go ahead and do whatever you want to it. But you're essentially stealing. If you're interested in using an artist's work for some other purpose, and the artist hasn't stated whether or not that's okay, it's customary to ask first. Why would you try to shame an artist for taking some precautions? Or for wanting to just share her work without literally opening it up to others to use however they'd like? I don't really understand that.

     

     

    Nah, people ask very, very rarely. And if they do, most -as usual- expect it to come really, really cheap.

    Or ...wait...you mean like here?

     

    Thanks for the text. I mean, really.

    I tend to only be active in very few places, and not anywhere non-art related, so this kind of reaction is completely foreign to me.

    Kinda makes me regret posting them here at all. :(

     

     

     

     

    @3D-stuff

    I get the picture.:D Blender ftw.

    Strangely enough I kinda like poly-by-poly modeling in blender better than sculpting(in zbrush, sculptris or blender itself).

    Sculpting just turns everything I do into ...boneless-mudpeople.

     

    The things with the screens are cintiqs, it's not like that's necessary though.  Also there is traditional art too. (Or so I heard:P)

     

    @portraits

    You must have awesome cropping skillz!

    No seriously, aside from the watermark ..I did not indent for them to be used "as is".

    I myself intended to crop them quite a bit. I just painted more, in case I had to slightly move them for better composition. (So I would not have to fix the holes then.)

     

     

     

    So you are opposed to people cropping off your signature and posting it on this forum for people to use in their game. You posted these only for self-promotion and to get congratulated, not for people to actually use them. Gotcha, thanks a lot, see you.

     

     

     

    You disgust me.

    But I assume, that might be what you intend.

     

    Seriously, if there had been like -actual- problems which cropping them properly and I had just been asked nicely, I probably would have even offered assistance.

     

    But, considering that I am apparently expected to not crop them at all, I guess even if I had supplied perfectly game-ready versions, that would still be wrong.

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  13. This is a mess.

     

    These are awesome.

     

    These are really nice, great job! We're still lacking portraits for races exclusive to our game, so any additions are very welcome. Thanks for sharing.

     

    Thanks, both of you! :)

    That's a real shame, I really like them. Especially Aumaua and Death Godlikes. I essentially like all of them though. :)

    I am really glad you include races like that!

     

    This guys artwork has made the custom portraits thread I started obsolete.

     

    I don't know. Yours seems to be more about posting stuff, this is apparently just about my stuff and philosophical discussions on watermarks/signatures...  Unintentionally.

    It would be nicer if there would be links back to the artists though.(In your thread)

     

     

    As a creative myself, I have to tell you that there is value in your work beyond self promotion. I tend to follow the Mandala Creed, wherein one's creative works should not be hoarded but instead set free to allow as many people as possible to enjoy the work. The moment you become paranoid  about 'keeping' the work you have already created is the moment you start losing the ability to create more. This isn't anti sales either, as the moment you sell a work of art you must also let it go. 

     

    You shouldn't expect the people here to look and not touch. I could erase your watermark in seconds without damaging the original background and post it here cropped and ready to be used in game within about 10 minutes. I won't because you haven't given permission, but I find that extremely silly. 

     

    I'd rather you do it yourself. I implore you to feel confident enough in your artistic ability to distribute your work freely, everyone here will love you for it. 

     

     

    I think if you are against "hoarding" it might be more problematic, that I don't post much of what I do...but that's for other reasons.

    But aside from that, that's some kind of weird philosophy-thing. "start losing the ability to create more"  because of... writing my name on it?

    Realistically, what takes away from my ability to create more(very literally), is this discussion. :/

     

    I am not confident in people giving credit. Also I am not confident in people knowing how to reverse-image-search.

    I don't like not being easily able to find the scource of pictures I like.

     

    I am a horrible person, for causing some inconvenience, in the use of something, I -didn't even have to freaking give you-. I made those essentially for myself, I posted them here too, because I though they might be of interest to you guys.

     

     

    These are amazing! And that orlan is the most adorable thing I have ever seen.

     

    Thank you.<3

     

     


    Alright, but why do you assume I would crop the top off, as you say, "anyways"? The orlan's ears would be partially cut off. If I was to use your portraits, I'd like to use them as you drew them with these image proportions, instead of cropping stuff out.


    You shouldn't expect the people here to look and not touch. I could erase your watermark in seconds without damaging the original background and post it here cropped and ready to be used in game within about 10 minutes. I won't because you haven't given permission


    You have the right to do that under fair use. Please do, people would only benefit from it. Plus, the author isn't against it in the first place.

     

     

    That's your problem. Considering they -for all I know- don't have the proportions the game uses, that might be kinda difficult.

     

    I don't know in what lawless country you reside, but where I live cutting artists signatures off is probably not part of the exceptions to copyright. At least not, if you intend to post it online like that. And that -is- what I am opposed to.

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  14. I'm not in the industry, but it sure seems like to me you definitely have the ability. I'd encourage you to reach out to some of the people at these companies, they always need art assets.  And the more you post the more likely you'll catch the eye of someone important.  Best of luck!  

     

    I looked up your website and it looks like it's down at the moment.  If you have a Tumblr or other blog I'd love to check out your other work though.

     

    Thank you! I really appreciate the encouragement :) 

    Yeah, it's pretty down. I have a tumblr, but I'm not that active. Most of my stuff is on deviantart.

    I probably should post some more interesting stuff, though.

     

     

    Wow that is some crazy good talent you got there. Well done!

     

    EDIT: Do you accept commissions (with payment) for a customized portrait? :D

     

    Thank you<3

    Depends on the payment. ;) In general yes, of course.

    Though, if it would feature something PoE specific, I might have to ask if that's actually okay. (I don't usually do fanart, because reasons.)

     

    I like your portraits, but do you expect people to play with a huge logo of your company on their portrait? Are you going to remove the logo for people to be able to use the portraits?

     

     

    I don't feel like a company....

    But no, I would expect them to crop them, as they would have to anyways, if I am not going to supply 2 different smaller versions. ;)

     

     

     

     

    yeah - I use a 3D program then postwork with some filters and touch-ups.

    Wish I could paint properly but I get by.

    I encourage you to post more of your work - they're ace (and we do need some more portraits for aumaua/orlan/godlike types :) )

    What kind of program?

    I tried some 3D before, but I didn't get too far ..to much time in between. (made some interesting tests, but never anything finished i think.)

    Well you could learn it...;)

     

    Those are the ones I care most about anyways.:p

     

     

    Specifically, I'm going to play an Orlan Cipher from Old Vaila who is fleeing his slave past and has gone a little crazy and a little native in the Dyrwood; courteous, polite, passionate, and viciously/brutally pragmatic. I'm planning on refusing to discuss my slave past at the beginning, being pretty open about other stuff, and hopefully having the option to slowly reveal my slave past over the course of the game as I deal with the problems and issues facing me.

     

    A dream portrait would require an Orlan who is, at the least, scarred and a little wild-eyed. :)

     

    I can't quite visualize the personality right now, but that might be a good thing. ;)

    Have you posted something about the start of the game making that non-discussing problematic? Or was that another slave-person(errr)? I have no idea were I red that, just reminded me of it.

     

    Don't get your hopes up.;( I just had to google "wild-eyed" and now I might never sleep.... (Well, it's 6:30am anyways..) Guy or girl though?

     

     

    Yeah, that's what I mean. The watermark seems a bit pointless because people will just cut the portrait down.

     

    It's a compromise.

    I mean, I obviously don't want them to have it in-game...  I just never post stuff without my name on it.

    The only difference is, that I put this "up there" instead of buttom-right corner.  Neither is crop-resistant, this just seemed more practical for this purpose.

     

     

    I'll cut the portrait down to below the water mark.

     

     

    Go! You can do it. Just don't post it around, please.;)

    (Should it not work properly, please tell me tough.)

     

     

    I think he put them there for some kinda proof he's the artist or something.

     

     

    She. But yeah, kinda. I just always do this. It doesn't usually cause such a fuss.

    The logo is relatively new, I used to just write my name and the date on it. (I have a terrible handwriting.)

     

     

     

    So you will not remove the watermark, correct?

    You're only posting these to self-promote, but you emphatically do not want people to use these portraits in game, correct?

     

     

    Uhm...no. On all of these. O_o

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  15. Great portraits - love the aumaua one especially (though they're all good).

    Best I can do is my current avatar, which I'll be using for my 1st playthrough as a druid)

     

    :D <3 I was kinda worried, nobody would like that one. Because...you know, orlans being fluffy.

     

    Is that 3d? Kinda reminds me of  P:T.

     

    Holy Catfish! These are great! 

     

    If you actually expect people to use these however, you should remove the watermark. I realize you want to promote your work but it defeats of purpose of posting them in a community setting (except of course to simply get praise). 

     

    Thank you. :)

     

    I originally meant to crop them, and add something easier to cut off. But last time I -did- try to crop them, that stuff up there was cut off anyways. (It's up there to be less obtrusive.)

    I am not 100% sure that is still the case (might have to check), but it made that other exercise kinda pointless.

     

    Yes, I do not like posting stuff without my name, I actually don't like -other peoples- paintings without something to indicate their origin either...

    Especially considering hardly anyone ever bothers to give credit.

     

    However, saying that "it defeats of purpose of posting them in a community setting" is somewhat over the top, in my opinion.

    I mean, it might not be ideal, but seriously ..at worst that makes them non-portrait-ready fanart.

    That way it just sounds like it would make any signatures or watermarks disqualifying in a community setting....

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  16. These are awesome! I particularly love that Orlan! Wouldn't work for my character, but so awesome looking.

     

    Thanks! :D What kind of character -are- you going to play?

     

    These are fantastic.  Do you do any other artwork for games and stuff?

     

    Thank you. :)

    Nope, I'd like to...but I am kinda flailing aimlessly atm. (Also trying to wrap up some other "project".)

    Add being really shy and awkward to having massive self-doubt, and you have my skills at self promotion.

    I mean, seriously,  I meant to post here for days...and I nearly talked myself out of it again.

     

    Pretty epic portraits. This makes me want to play a Wild

     

    Orlan instead of my Thyrtan Human that I wanted to.

     

    Give in~

    Playing human is bad for you, why don't you try some orlan?

    Just imagine the soft silky fur, and twitching ears... also racial discrimination... er, wait...

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  17. And yes, female Orlans are taller than male Orlans. 

     

    I think that's a great touch!

     

    Although it makes me wonder, if that is actually somehow referenced in-game..like having some impact on their culture, sayings or something. Or at least being somehow acknowledged in a minor way.

     

    And if that means, that orlans might prefer women to be taller. Or if that has any effect to their relations to other races or how they are viewed.

    There is a lot that could be done with that.

    It's kinda cool either way.

  18. For all I know, there is a manual for the physical versions. (80 pages or something?)

     

    So I guess, whether there is a digital version of said manual included with the digital copies, -is- a perfectly valid question.

     

    I would certainly hope there is.

    You know,  in case the evil shipping lag hits me hard. Would be kinda sad, to only be able to read the manual after playing the game.

  19. This isn't serious ..right?

    Please tell me this is not serious...

     

    Two female elves, with brownish hair. Shocking indeed.

    The only thing, that I think is actually similar, is the underside of the nose. :D

     

    Aside from that... I would judge the upper one, not only to be quite different, but also technically superior in -every way-.

    The anatomy is better, the design is more interesting, the lighting is better, the rendering is better, even the pose/composition is better balanced.

    Also freckles.

     

    So...what the heck?

  20. The blue guy is really nice.
    I have to admit I didn't like the Aumaua concepts much, but if that's supposed to be one ..I like. <3

    The portraits do really have a certain Baldur's Gate vibe, although I think they are much better style & technique wise.

    I am assuming these are over-painted photos, right? (Would make sense.)

    Anyways, there are two little things I don't like about the portraits:

    1. It seems like the nose in the “human-looking” portrait isn't properly over-painted. That makes it stick out a quite oddly. Similar problem for the druid, although more because it's a lot sharper/tighter than the rest of the piece.
    Draws my focus at least, and it's a bit odd to be staring at peoples noses.

     

    2. I don't know if it's an oversight or an artistic choice (one that I can not quite comprehend)...but.. do the eyes have to be that dull/flat?
    It's most visible in the druid one. I think they're lacking some slight soft shadows and a crisper highlight. Maybe a colored one, for example blue like a sky reflection.(gives more contrast)
    It's not a huge thing, but it would really make them much better in my opinion.

    Just...you know. Swap the eyes and the noses...focus-wise.

    Please do not eat me, or "rain down death" on me.

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