Well, I actually decided it was really a lot of work trying to figure out what was wrong and decided to just roll with whatever came but like someone said, I just wanted the gloves of manipulation and I'll be a happy camper .
Anyway did a bit of testing and there were two moments in time I travelled from.
First one was after I had recruited Eder and ALoth and travelled immediately to Esternwood to the cemetery:
day 2 hour 11
20 majprima - spellward amulet
2 camps forward to day 3 hour 2, 1 fonprima - ring of overseeing
Second one was after I recruited Eder and ALoth and spent a little time (well, one hour in game time ) in the Temple of Eothas and travelled to Esternwood to the cemetery:
day 2 hour 12
20 majprima - minor ring of protection
2 camps forward to day 3 hour 3, 1 fonprima - cape of withdrawal
Prior to this, I have done a lot more testing which I didn't record so my apologies if there isn't much more data I can provide.
Edit: Sorry if I have confused anyone with the 2 camps forward item list ... I have corrected them.