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Now who is assuming, playing a game constitues as starting it up and playing for any amount of time even 15 seconds. But somehow you all corrilate playing with finishing a game fully. If I play a game for 3 min and equip a piece of armor on my Warrior I have played the game.

I'ts clear you have zero conception on what anything is I'll clear this up for you really quickly, a warrior/fighter in this sense is anyone that can use a two handed sword this is a solid fact throught gaming history as well as real history You also clearly don't have any comprehension between a game mechanic and a class specification/trait is. So I'll clear that up for you really fast too: Armor and items are not game mechanics, A game mechanic would be casting spells, choosing dialog, the fighting moves and things like that. You have now proved by your last few replies that you clearly do not know much of anything, and are just throwing up random sentences because you cannot think of anything else to do, so as of this point, until you can learn what you're talking about You really need to stop posting repelies that make yourself look ike a fool because you do not have a clue to what you're talking about. The fact that you're seriously saying the history of gaming and history in real life is all wrong, shows what you know.

I gave you about 4 other sources (Between video, history, the wiki, youtube, and about 90 other games that all outright state he is a warrior. And you saying that even though all the other sources all say what a warrior is defined as, as well as what their class type can wear, you're telling everyone else and the entire history throughout existence is nothing more than an assumption. Another thing I wanted to bring up is that by your logic, a rapier is not a sword because it doesn't outright say the word sword right on it, so it's only assumed it's a sword even though throughout history and games and counteless other sources and blacksmiths thoughout the world, all say it's a sword, you'll say they are assuuming that, and history is wrong..

So despite lucas being legion, despite he can use two handed swords, despite the fact that all legionairs in histroy that can use two handed swords are warriors, and despite the fact that all warriors in history being able to wear any armor type you're still going to say and try and argue, what is a reality about warriors and what defines them is a mear assumption? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrior_(character_class) At the bottom it says: Warriors appear in many roleplaying games: and it lists these EverQuest The Elder Scrolls Guild Wars Lineage II MapleStory RuneScape Diablo Swords and Serpents But apparently those games according to you don't have warriors/fighters and it's all assumed. You're saying that all those are wrong. And finally you're saying the game doesn't outright state he is a warrior when it does in fact say he is a warrior 1. Legion = Warrior 2. Trained in using a two handed Sword = Warrior those are all different ways to say warrior/fighter. The facts i've presented with the links to all the definitions and games ever made support this. So you can try to say it's an assumption but i've already proved it's fact just simply by real life history and in game history as well.

Yes they do it's called Lucas has been trained with Sword and Shield and two handed swords, Only one class type in any game ever made on the face of this planet can use a two handed sword, and that is a warrior and you know that. The fact that numerous times it says Lucas is trained in sword and shield and two handed swords says right there wher he is. I suggest you go read up on what defines classes in games and realize you clearly do not belong participating in this thread if you don't even know what makes up a warrior class as well as a warrior not having an armor restriction then ry to say it's nothing more than an assumption that warriors can wear any armor type. you trying to say it's an assumption about a warrior being able to wear any type of armor is saying every game on the face of this planet ever made whose rules are written out and has become a cornerstone of the warrior class and it's definiation, doesn't know what a warrior is and that in any game ever made so far to this date has armor a warrior cannot wear. As I said i've played over 15,000 games (MMO, MMORPG, first person, hack and slash, you name it, and every single game I've ever played where there is a character that can use a two handed sword is a warrior and in all those games the warrior can wear any type of armor. Please go try and say it's al an assumption when it's been embeded into every game ever made. You really need to go read up on class systems before continuing in this discussion because you clearly have no clue about what is going on.

Where do I begin and which resource would you like here are a few: First 10 min of Lucas game play this video goes over it in his intro, his background in the game, plus hee is legion and all legion members are warriors.. Perhapse you missed that in the story line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnDgNfM3zjY Also here are a few other things that state what he is: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/lucas-ch...on-siege/712397 Scroll down to Main characters in this link and under Player characters it explains this as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon_Siege...ayer_characters it doesn't need to say it in the game, the fact that Lucus is a warrior/fighter, says it all. maybe you're forgetting or simply do not understand how warriors/fighters class are designed so let me give you some insight. A Warrior class in any game ever made on the face of this planet can always wear any armor type always have been and always will be able to because that's how a warrior/fighter clas is designed. That's how I know and the exact reason why I said what i said. So again trying to argue a point that you cannot argue on is useless. no offense but since you even had to ask that, perhapse you don't know as much about games as you think you do.

Preventing a warrior/fighter from wearing a piece of armor they are supposed to be able to wear is not abiding by any rule in any game...Armor in all games do not work like that. The fact that you didn't even bother to question, why a normal every day function of all games could not be done in this one, shows what type of gamer you really are. It's not a game mechanic when it totally goes against what a character class is supposed to be able to do never mind without an explanation as to why. I'm seriously starting to wonder about gamers these days...they totally make uop every single excuse and try and make logic out of things that don't even belong. But what really geets me is how gamers these days don't see what is wrong with a normal function not being able to be used, especially without any for of valid explanation. As far as gaming goes, a warrior always has and always will be able to wear light, med, and heavy armor, that is what the're class type is, always has been always will be, if a restriction has been placed on something that is normally supposed to be allowed without an explanation then that aspect is clearly broken. and the fact that no one bothers to question or think that there is absolutely nothing wrong with pulling that, shows that todays gamers really do not have any comprehension as to how games and classes and things like that really work...They just go along not even thinking twice, about this totally broken aspect and that it's programmed incorrectly. Go play D&D or soe other RPG class and armor system game that has up to date current rules, and then see if a warrior/fighter is not allowed to wear a piece of armor. The bottom line is this, what is happening in this game totally goes against how this class works in every game ever made. You people really need to start realizing that the games you're playing aren't being properly played with system set-ups like this in fact you people don't even realize how much different the game would actually be if the norm wasn't broken. So far there is no other game in existence that I have played or found (And I've played over 15000 games) that will not allow a warrior/fighter to wear a breastplate....not one game. The fact that I cannot wear one in DS III but can in any other game, shows something.

If you don't bother with things like that then you come accross as a terrible gamer. If something is in a game it's there for a reason, and any player that doesn't question things that don't have explanation should maybe take a look at how they play games and realize they are actually missing the full gaming interaction. Maybe it's just me but a piece of breastplate armor is simply to protect ones torso, and it's usually made up of light to medium armor. A fighter can wear light, medium and heavy armor. So the fact that I was not able to equip a piece of armor my character is supposed to be able to use without any form of explanation why, should be questioned and don't bother trying to say that is not a legitimate issue or that it was explained. I mean seriously, any player that plays a warrior/fighter in a game that doesn't question why a warrior/fighter cannot wear a piece of armor they are supposed to be able to wear, is clearly not playing the game correctly.

greylord, So far, you're the only person on this entire forum, who actually understood exactly what I am talking about. You hit the nail right on the head about everything I said was wrong. You just phrased what I said in a more understandable fashion. To elaborate on one such thing is the items that another character can use. I don't know about you but in every game I have ever played every single item I have ever picked up, had a class restriction or said something right on it...Only usable by (Insert Class/Level) The fact that these items are just there with no connection, is retarded. I mean seriously, what is a player expected to do, hold onto an item and try to get lucky with it or worry that by either breaking it down or selling it you may have screwed yourself over all because you didn't know who or what tha item was for and or used for. Lets get real here, this is no way to play a game. You want the thinking and worrying to go into actual game play, or focus on the fact that you possibly might need an item. These are things that shoudln't even be a concern. It's really simple if i am awarrior/fighter, this means that i can wear all sorts of armor and types (This is due to the fact that fighters can do that) If I cannot wear some armor I better be explained why I'm not able to wear specific armor because not beingt able to wear specific armor as a fighter/warrior without any reason kills the game playablity and enjoyment....Stuff like this should be being explained because lets face it, a warrior that can't wear some types of armor, not only makes absolutely no sense, but totally goes against how a warrior/fighter is put together and when you start making that aspect happen in the game, that puts it into a players head to start wndering if there are other things a warrior/fighter is supposed to be able to do but can't. I still find it highly interesting how not one person offers to talk to me in voice chat..

This is the exaxct reason why I said take this up with me in voice chat via xfire. Although I highly doubt anyone who mouthed off in this thread would have any gal to talk in voice chat. I myself do not care what people say to or about me, I'm simply tryinig to get some things straight that I have issues with is all so hopefully people will talk in chat to help me get this resloved.

Chasted while I apprieciate the replies you posted with some explanations, you along with everyone else in this thread have still completely and totally missed the point to my video. The stuff I am asking about has still not been answered or explained why. So I have uploaded another video that goes into great detail about the major things that are not explained and need to be. Watch this and then try to say this stuff is self explanatory and or explained: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBev_UahyY0 Oh yeah and another thing i forgot to add... Sure the help topic refer to things such as defensive abilities, but there is no way to know what abilities are defensive and what ones are not...what do they expect you to do...just pick one at random and hope it matches your characters style. So far this game is set up so you have to guess abilities and things at random and try to get a good build by getting extremely lucky. So all you get is a bunch of random abilities that may or may not go with your character that are not explained. Yeah way to go Obsidian BTW I would be more than happy to have one of you from here, talk to me in voice chat via xfire regarding this game. my xfire name is takenforaride I won't use ventrilo, teamspeak or skype due to all the douche bags on there.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how it's the players fault for not knowing why there are items that you cannot use and why. again resort to the video because the video shows me having a sword in my inventory that even though I have proficiency enough to use one, it doesn't show up in my list of actually equipable weapons in order for me to be able to equip it. So in short I have an item that I cannot use even though my character can in fact use a sword.

You realize all you did is make a video of "I say so"? That's why I showed the menu's opened up, showed each screen with no instruction on any of them...but yet it's all explained in the game right? So yeah my say so is fact. Where are your facts

He full well knows exactly what i brought up isn't explained. I mean after all you did say everything is explained and left nothing to back that up. Unless people that leave replies like this on forums get specific and provide actual proof of what they say.a response like this is not productive and is so overly used it's pathetic. If everything is explained in the game as you say then you should have no problem going through and actually taking screen shots from in the game that shows all thhis so called text that contains an explanation to all the stuff I just went over and brought up in that video.

It doesn't explain how to add the abilities/skills to the circles above your chaaracters portrait, it also doesn't explain if your abilities are passive or do they have to be activated. It doesn't explain anything about why you cannot use certain items that you can already use...such as the case with the long sword I use as an example in that video. I have bought items in a store thinking I could use them and then found out I wasted my money because my chaarcter couldn't use them and there was no reason given why my character couldn't use what I bought what does the camera have to do with the game not explaing anything about it's abilies, equipment. simply because you need that information FIRST, that way when you come accross it you already know and FYI there is an indication you can control party members, it's called Dungeons Siege and Dungeon Siege II This is totally untrue and besides even if it was true it's still supposed to have a fully detailed explictly explained how to do all it's game play basics before hand. The way things wortk is having the instructional information ahead of time actually help you play better and makes it more enjoyable..i don't find wasting my money on items I have no way of knowing i can use or why an enjoyable experience I dont' find not knowing how to change characters or even if you can or how to give them items or even open their screens to give them items a fun way to play...all that stuff does is become an irritating annoyance that takes all fun away from the game the bottm line is this, if i cannot wear items i better be told why I cannot, if I have a character in my party, damn right i better be told all the game play basics about how to give them items, how to control them, etc... You really don't think it's important to tell a player at the time you get an additonal party member, whether or not they can control them or how to give them items. OR You do not think it's neccessary to explain to a player why you cannot use certain items doesn't effect what you spnd at a store? You also don't think it's important to know how and why you cannot use abilities or that it's neccesary to explain what ones are passive or need to be activated, as well as how You or anyone is seriously going to try and say that none of that is important enough to explain before hand and doesn't affect how you play the game?